man: if I can't have sex with this woman who doesn't want me I'll diiiiieeeeeee Talmudic Rabbis: then get on with the dying, my dude.https://twitter.com/drnelk/status/991005177971990528 …
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Jessica Price Retweeted Dov
man: if I can't have sex with this woman who doesn't want me I'll diiiiieeeeeee Talmudic Rabbis: then get on with the dying, my dude.https://twitter.com/drnelk/status/991005177971990528 …
Jessica Price added,
The point of view of the woman is completely ignored here (well surprise with that source). "She may not". What if she wanted to? So this quote from the Talmud seems completely counterproductive to me. But whatever
Within the thread, the person clarifies that the translation doesn't accurately convey the fact that she *doesn't* want to. Apparently, the original text is more clear on that fact. IOW, the doctors are the only ones trying to force her to do anything.
Then in this instance she doesn't want to. But it's still not her choice if "she may not"
*even if* this was the case (it's not, the context is pretty clear imo) the idea that denying a woman sex is just as bad as forcing a woman into sex - that not being allowed to get laid is as bad as rape - is frankly alarming.
Erm, alright... We really really really disagree then. That stance seems wildly illogical. Both cases (forcing into or denying the right to have sex) are about men controlling and using women as a commodity for themselves that they have a right to use as they deem appropriate
And the whole point about the incel debate is that it's a woman's (or anyone's) own free choice who to sleep or not to sleep with or never to sleep with anyone and not anyone else's. Be that incels or "sages". It's about women being subjects not objects of others agendas...
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