@Shibumizo If you can point me to historical sources, would greatly appreciate!
"You've got to do Ngondro before you can do Dzogchen!" Dzogchen dates back to 8th century. Ngondro was invented in the 16th century.
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@Meaningness Here's some of what Dzogchen Ponlop says about that: https://books.google.com/books?id=yBKHSacHFg4C&pg=PA255&lpg=PA255&dq=Wangchuck+Dorje+(1560-1603)+Ngondro&source=bl&ots=HsNrcxWpiA&sig=94yTIELQftW8V3eK73kSPtJF64U&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDIQ6AEwA2oVChMI7MjbkcK7yAIVEzGICh3v4Qby#v=onepage&q=Wangchuck%20Dorje%20(1560-1603)%20Ngondro&f=false … - Još 1 odgovor
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@garnetttom Yes, Jim Valby. Thanks. In the Internet subculture on Dzogchen, the hard-core Tibetan people think he's the anti-Buddha - Još 2 druga odgovora
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.@Shibumizo This is a really important point! Have draft blog post about it, but not found details of history of ngondro’s invention.
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Searched twitter for ngöndro to see what Dave might have written about it and came across this thread. And I believe that draft was finished & published a month ago! And I'm in favor of following up on open threads on twitter, no matter how old
https://vividness.live/2019/07/05/some-preliminaries-ngondro/ …pic.twitter.com/md78BAGms4
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