Shaun KingVerified account

Sorry he didn't launch a prolonged full blooded assault against Trump.ever. Anyone who left us to this demon can't lead us now.

Who are you speaking about? Bernie? You must not follow him closely. He blasts Trump every single day in very substantive ways. That you characterize Bernie as leaving us to this demon is so troubling. How many of Bernie's speeches have you watched the past 6 months?

His speeches are 18 months too late. Faced with the foe of fascism he said little. No one is listening to him anymore.

He wasn’t purposefully elevating Trump... unlike some campaigns... https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ …

This is just spin & projection.

Bernie Sanders is an intellectually dishonest fraud who promises unicorns to gullible & naive followers that he has no clue or power to deliver. He's a terrible candidate. Stop pushing this empty suit and fraud. He never was the answer and never will be.

His policies also weren't the problem, it was the lack of substance in them. They were hollow and one bite would crumble the chocolate rabbit

EXACTLY. He was all words, no plans. His disastrous NYDN interview should have been the end of it... it exposed him as all talk. Pushing the same words for 30 years (good words, mind you) he had NO idea how to actually go about implementing them. He's showed no leadership at all.

But of course if he gets the nom, I'll vote for him. I'd rather have a hollow president than one filled with toothpaste and sadness (I've adopted a #NeverRepublican stance)

I'm thanking that it's never ever going to come to that, so I won't ever be put in a position of having to hold my nose and vote for Bernie. He cannot and will not win any sort of nomination for POTUS for 2020. He's far too damaged now.

I absolutely agree I don't want him. But we cannot get to the point where we are angry the wrong candidate won the nom and then don't vote. That's what happened with Bernie supporters in 2016 and will happen again if we aren't dedicated to the stance early.

At this point if U don’t vote for a Democrat in 2020 you are aiding and abetting the GOP/RUS/Alt-Right coup. The political reality and math is just that stark.

That’s what we all said in 2016. Yet so many of them wrote in Bernie. They voted for Jill. They wrote in Harambe. They stayed home because “both sides are the same”

I have never supported Bernie Sanders for many reasons & I’m uncomfortable with my party nominating an almost 80 year old. But I will vote for him if he’s the Dem nominee. I hope his supporters will do the same for whomever the Dem nominee is if it’s not Bernie - unlike 2016.

More Clinton voters in 2008 voted for McCain than Bernie voters voted for Trump. A ton of people who voted for Obama stayed home or voted Trump because of how uninspiring Clinton was. The narrative that his supporters sunk her campaign is propaganda designed to silence the left.

I’m not trying to silence anyone and I am the left. I think 2008 PUMAs were idiots. Thank goodness there wasn’t enough of them to matter. My concern is that in 2016 Jill Stein got enough votes in MI, WI, and PA to throw the election to Trump. I don’t want that to happen again.

That narrative is false as well. Stein voters were never voting Clinton to begin with. It looks like a sizable number because so many Obama voters stayed home. Most Americans don't vote and I imagine many people didn't vote thinking Clinton would win anyways thanks to the polls.

The issue isn't that they voted Stein, it's that Clinton couldn't get enough people to turn out for her. She was never going to get those votes from Stein supporters.

Any comment about voter restrictions and racial gerrymandering and it's affect on the election? Oh yeah, you're a Bernie guy. That's identity politics. Can't talk about that. And that's why I find Bernie toxic. He can't do intersectionality.

Yes. More people in WI, for example, were turned away from voting due to voter ID laws than were in Trump’s margin of victory. WI & other states regularly have very close D vs. R elections where Rs pick up a huge # of seats regardless due to democracy-killing gerrymandering.

Can we also mention the literal propaganda campaign Hillary was up against? The one with the $1M+ per month budget? Why won’t the Bernie Bros acknowledge that?