1. In 1992, an Indiana prison inmate, Daniel Vanskike, argued that it was unfair that he was forced to work, often for for-profit businesses, without being paid a minimum wage. The judge ruled against Vanskike. Let me explain why...
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2. In Vanskike v. Peters (Vanskike was the prison inmate & Peters was the head of prisons in Indiana) the judge ruled that Indiana didn't have to pay prisoners a federal minimum wage or give federal worker protections. In the decision, guess what the judge cited? 13th Amendment
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4. It is both absolutely gross and racist that lawyers for the
@NCAA called on Vanskike v. Peters, where prisoners weren't paid for their work because of the 13th Amendment, to justify their arguments that NCAA athletes should not be paid either.Show this threadThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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5. When you can, read Vanskike v. Peters in full. Read the footnotes too. See where the courts ruled that inmates don't have to be paid or even treated according to all federal employment rules for their work BECAUSE OF THE 13TH AMENDMENT.https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/974/806/437621/ …
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6. Then, understand just how outrageous it is for the NCAA to form their legal lips to say Vanskike v. Peters, which is about prisons not paying inmates, supports their argument that NCAA athletes do not have to be paid.
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No joke man.
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More proof we were never serious about ending slavery.
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So this is happening, but people of color are supposed to blindly believe that intentional mass incarceration "doesn't exist", and that the
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As CA's AG,
@SenKamalaHarris' administration argued against an early release program for non-violent offenders because it would hurt the state's prisoner-firefighter program...we like slaves in this country. Especially when they're black/brown and/or poor. -
That is disturbing and, especially AS as a
#Liberal, I would find that to be a bad mark against Ms. Harris if true. I know that California has an ever growing wildfire situation, but prisoners conscripted into life-threatening duty is quite....slavish. And never justified. -
They are NOT conscripted. They volunteer. There are benefits: time off their sentences, training that can lead to a job on release & pay much more than other prison jobs. Yes, Ms Harris did argue that early release would hamper fire fighting/suppression but changed that position.
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As long as that’s real volunteering, and not the “Suicide Squad” kind, where prisoners would end up in a worse situation unless they volunteer. I’m glad Harris changed her stance, but if she voted for it first, some people may be reluctant to forget that.
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They’re getting paid. Would you prefer they have to pay tuition, room. & board. There’s a million students out there who would trade places with their scholarship arrangement.
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You are missing the point. They have the ability to do both. Not awarding scholarships would destroy the product. They have the means to pay the scholarship and pay the wages.
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Then it’s professional sports & kids are going to be negotiating for the highest payer to go to college. Just do away with one & done.
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I think you’re taking it too far. Collegiate sports is a full-time job that doesn’t end when the season ends. There are more college expenses than tuition. A fixed stipend is a good way to keep athletes clothed and fed while they’re forced to forfeit a part-time job.
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I’m ok with a stipend. Most student athletes are on a meal plan by the athletic department. Which is heads & tails above what the non athletes are getting down at the student union. But most folks aren’t talking about a stipend, they’re talking about revenue percentage.
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Well, that would still make sense. D1 programs make more than D2. Stipends should be fixed based on this. It’s still a % of revenue that’s division specific, not program.
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Gonzaga, VCU, Butler vs UNC, Duke, & UCLA. How do you determine the payment between the small schools & big schools? Just make it harder for the little schools to compete?
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Scholarship allotment maybe. D1 schools get more scholarships and exposure to a larger recruiting class. At some point you gotta admit, giving a head coach $11M/yr is crazy. How about $10.75M/yr and give his players a chance to buy books.

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