So what's the alternative? Does going independent help improve people's lives? I'm not American, but it seems working to change the democratic party from within has the highest chance of success?
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Absolutely! Third party support only strengthens the far-right movement.
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Governing & legislating requires compromise. The Democratic Party has been a reckoning force this year and we need all members to stay active and vigilant, even in the midst of a set back. Division among progressives only strengthens the far-right movement in this country.
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There is no division among progressives. There is division between liberals & progressives with the latter refusing to support corp politics where politicians represent donors over people. If the DNC wants unity, they need to stop dividing us. This is why we're in this mess.
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We may need to play a long game here. Obama was good at that. There is no path to breaking the GOP hold on the government without a united Democratic party. This is no time for purity tests.
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What is a purity test to you. If not voting for corp politics is purity, we have a big problem with the growing base. They expect us to fall in line bc the right is so rabid & abandon our principles. No more corrupt politicians just bc a D is in front of their name!
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Short answer: Not taking half a loaf when you can get it and letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Obama told us it's not going to take one year, one term or even one lifetime to get to the mountain top, so we have to go a step at a time.
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I understand but we're not progressing by propping up corp Dems & purging progressives. All we're doing is alienating the base. It's party over country & it's destroying us. Over 1k seats lost & Trump. Will we ever learn?
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It was a necessity to do. Just for the military personnel. Dems don’t have any real power at this point until they take over the House and Senate. It’s a work in progress. As I support DACA, military soldiers and families shouldn’t be punished because of immigration disputes.
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I ask that you consider: the only power Dems in Congress have now is 1) obstruct majority and 2) shape public opinion. They played a bad hand the best they could. To obstruct further eroded public good will. They got: more time to raise visibility for DACA and a CHIP ext.
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CHIP is here. The government shuts down again in 3 weeks. We’ll try it again.
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Good luck out there...Democrats are doing what they can with the numbers they have. Many of the people you want to help, don't vote in large numbers. Why are most states in GOP control? VOTE, don't complain.
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I feel like you're operating with tunnel vision here. DACA was not going to happen before the gov't reopened. But CHIP is now off the negotiating table. And that's a great thing.
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you really think if left it closed GOP would cave? Longer it lasted more $ pain it caused, more opinion shifts to a pox on both your houses......GOP made a promise, yes one they've made before, but never under this big a spotlight, if they break it in 16 days Dems close it again
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These r ridiculous statements. Derms forced a vote on DACA, didnt abandon the issue. Trump is an abomination, most important is defeating him in 2020. U should both look at the big picture and help ppl who listen to u stay on task
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I love all the Dems taking their ball and going home. How does that help. You are just empowering the GOP even more.
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Welcome to the club of compassion & determination to stand up to corruption. We need the support of every true progressive. We can make change one voice at a time!
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Thank you! It’s about time!
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