and their tax returns . . . all candidates should submit
Can we agree on this? Challenging and critiquing and examining the records and votes (or lack thereof) of candidates is not hate. It just isn’t. It’s about the most civil form of discourse we can have and must be done. It’s not unhealthy. It can/must be done with respect.
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And any tax returns from Foundations/Not for profits that they are or were running.
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Yes. And just as we provide info to address concerns, have the respect to consider it. Example: Bernie *did* vote for the '94 crime bill (that Biden wrote), but did you listen to his speech on it? He was opposed, but it had $$ to fight domestic abuse -- too important to vote no.
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These are the types of nuances that are important to flush out.
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Exactly. I'm 100% open to have my assumptions debunked, if you can provide proof that they should be. I hope that's the case for all voting in the Dem primary, no matter who they're rooting for in the months leading up to it.
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While I agree that examing records =/= hate, the people who think this way are intentionally trying to obfuscate their candidate's history with phoney outrage. "HOW DARE YOU LOOK AT THE ONLY MEANINGFUL METRIC TO EXAMINE A CANDIDATES POLICY POSITIONS!"
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Clearly, this race has the potential to go more than one ballot at the convention so we might be in a position where we have to seek the votes of others backing other candidates to cast a ballot for Bernie on a second or third ballot and secure the nomination.
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This is literally the plan. That’s why there are 50 candidates. They want to force the second vote so the Supers can make the choice for us again. We need to be there in the primaries. We need to win the public vote. Independents should be registered as Democrats *now*
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Not going to work because Bernie has his own lane the rest split the rest and the more there are the more they split. There is a 15% min to get an delegates so even if Bernie gets 16% and the rest <15% each Bernie gets ALL delegates
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I thought the threshold was higher? Don’t they need 30% or some such? And what about situations like last time in WV? Bernie won every county, but they split the delegates, then the Supers put her over. Pardon my ignorance, I haven’t dug into the rules rewrites.
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I recall 15% but there could be variance based on states with low population/delegate counts if you only have 4 to give 25% to get 1 would make sense
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Different states have different rules. Some are winner take all, other's use percentages and divvy up the delegates.
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They don't actually care about the critiques. Most of the ppl crying about "attacks" on candidates like Harris & Beto are perfectly happy, or at least completely silent, when the same kind of critique is levied on candidates like Sanders, Warren, or Gabbard.
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I agree with first part, but not the second. Respect has to earned by deeds for me. If the candidates actions are unworthy of respect, I have no reservations disrespecting them.
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Exactly. Which is why I won’t consider Bernie Sanders.
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All three of your better vote blue, in the end, it’s all that matters.
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Totally agree. So
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I mean the nra gave him a d- so the record can't be that damning
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