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1. I'm genuinely wondering what the journalistic standards are for Trump palace intrigue stories As a non-journalist who interviews political figures, I'd never think to directly quote someone saying something if I hadn't heard it firsthand

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2. If I wanted to convey what Kushner was saying or thinking and hadn't spoken to him myself, I'd attribute it to a source: "According to senior official x, Kushner said so and so, or Kushner thinks so and so." And, in any case, it would probably be paraphrased

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3. The people I interview (Islamists, mostly) don't lie nearly as much as Trump administration officials, but I wouldn't trust them—or really *anyone*—to accurately "remember" the exact words of what someone said in a private meeting

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4. I remember when I used to interview Jordanian Muslim Brotherhood figures and some hated each other and would talk shit about each other, so the idea that I'd directly quote a member of one faction secondhand based on what a member of the other faction told me would be nuts

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5. Again, I'm not a journalist, but if someone told me something so self-evidently absurd (i.e. Trump not knowing who Boehner is) I'd use basic judgment and not include it in any published material, or I'd say "Bannon joked that Trump didn't even know who Boehner was"

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6. I mean come on, seriously. The Wolff excerpt, and a lot of what

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writes, are silly, fun, and have (some) glimmers of insight, but they can't really be considered "journalism," can they? It undermines faith in the media and contributes to "fake news" narratives

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7. Compare–one's from yesterday and one's from 2013 Yesterday: "Ailes had a suggestion: John Boehner, who had stepped down as Speaker of the House only a year earlier. 'Who’s that?' asked Trump" 2013: HEADLINE: Trump, Boehner hit the links politico.com/story/2013/08/ [end]

Trump, Boehner hit the links

Trump says his golfing buddy Boehner is "a terrific guy."

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Sorry, one more thing, some folks are responding to this thread and asking me why I'm "defending" Trump. If this is considered defending Trump, then I'm at a loss. If something correct happens to portray Trump in a slightly less horrible light, that doesn't make it less correct

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Does the fact that many of those conversations we recorded affect your thinking?

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Watch out. You are now considered an enemy of the rabid anything that makes Trump look bad goes groupthink.

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This didn't start w Trump, though. It's a certain genre of behind-the-scenes book, pioneered, I think, by Woodward. But same for Game Change, books about Bush/Obama WH. Big difference is just that a lot more people talk in Trump world.

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Ironic you say that. It didn't start with Trump, it started with constant talking heads on news tv shows

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you are making excellent points. Some wonder why no one takes action on this President and the points you raise truly address that. Thank you!

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we are so divided. Pro Trump - Never Trump. This division is not helpful and prevents to truth and where it lies..........muddy

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YES to this. I’m not a Trump supporter, but I still call out BS when I see it. I don’t like the spin or rumor mill books regarding anyone, no matter what their political affiliation. You can dislike someone & still object to smears written as “journalism.”

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