right but I'm specifically talking about a world where everyone wants you to interoperate with dozens of (potentially adhoc) effects. Every effect you incidentally satisfy that you refuse to document makes your library less useful.
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Replying to @Gankra_
Yup, this is the world I live in. I think it's easy to over-estimate how bad it is, as long as you actively consider "what realistically could break" with every change, and take the spirit of RFC 1105 to heart.
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Replying to @sgrif
Do you think this philosophy would be tractable in a world of pervasive dependent typing?
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Replying to @Gankra_
I don't know that I can give a better answer than "it depends". Maybe you should ask an Idris programmer. ;) For Diesel we work around this by "the public API for the result of this method is this helper type w/ the same name". Associated type values are generally private
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Replying to @sgrif
r.e. your list of things worth encoding, I think the only one that's really worth doing is constexpr and maybe i/o purity (I generally always lean towards "this type does I/O, other types take this one as an arg" regardless so I don't care as much)
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Replying to @sgrif
I do think that *in general* spending a lot of time considering how changes will affect your users goes a very long way. If everybody in OSS did this, we would have a lot fewer of these discussions
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Replying to @sgrif
There's a lot of value in having a connection with your larger users, and being able to just ask "hey does this commit break your app?". Crater is nice, but ultimately the real breakage is from the servos of the world, and apps of that size are rarely open source.
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Replying to @sgrif
radical reinvisioning of gpl where we make it intractable to be closed source because we will break you if we can't automatically see and update your code for you
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Replying to @carols11cents @sgrif
Swift is dangerously close to this afaict
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But is baby lifetimes on board?
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