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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. gankra's gay‏ @Gankra_ 7 Feb 2018
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      has anyone ever researched/documented the interaction between encoding a large number of effects/dependent-types and API evolution? I'm concerned "usable" forms require lots of inference, which means lots of potential breaking changes to public APIs.

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    2. gankra's gay‏ @Gankra_ 7 Feb 2018
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      Or even without inference, public APIs have to encode lots of incidental facts you wouldn't normally document that dramatically constrain the implementation.

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    3. gankra's gay‏ @Gankra_ 7 Feb 2018
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      Example in Rust: there's arguments for encoding: allocation, nounwind, simd (and which parts), float usage, atomic usage, i/o, purity, constexpr, thread-affinity, and probably others. This is a lot of things to guarantee/care about!

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    4. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 7 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @Gankra_

      I vaguely lean towards the C answer here. Public API is what's documented. I `#[nodoc]` everything I don't want to be relied on (and in rare cases just mention in the docs "you shouldn't rely on X"). Of course you still have to consider "does this actually break code" on changes

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    5. gankra's gay‏ @Gankra_ 7 Feb 2018
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      right but I'm specifically talking about a world where everyone wants you to interoperate with dozens of (potentially adhoc) effects. Every effect you incidentally satisfy that you refuse to document makes your library less useful.

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    6. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 7 Feb 2018
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      Yup, this is the world I live in. I think it's easy to over-estimate how bad it is, as long as you actively consider "what realistically could break" with every change, and take the spirit of RFC 1105 to heart.

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 7 Feb 2018
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      Alternate answer: Claim every change is fixing a soundness bug.

      4:30 PM - 7 Feb 2018
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