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    1. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 9 Jan 2018
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      I've got an RFC I'm writing to provide an attribute which can be placed on impls to tell rustc "Please do not recommend this impl". Explicit annotation is the only fix in this case I think. My desired behavior in *this* case is "Follow the impl chain to N-1 places"

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    2. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 9 Jan 2018
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      This would also help in cases where you want Rust to recommend another impl, but it doesn't because there are two "possible" cases that could apply (even though one never does)

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    3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 9 Jan 2018
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      There's a few cases like that in Diesel right now, and they're the difference between "<3 page long type>: ExecuteDsl is not satisfied" and "String: FromSql<Integer> is not satisfied"

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    4. Esteban K –  🦀 ⚙️@home‏ @ekuber 9 Jan 2018
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      It does sound like an annotation with "similar" behavior to `rustc_on_unimplemented` would be enough for your case, but it'd be nice if rustc had better behavior for this case by default (I want to minimize how many hints library writers need to add for us to do the right thing).

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    5. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 9 Jan 2018
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      Heh. The "motivation" section of this RFC specifically talks about how the current behavior causes the "rustc_on_unimplemented" attribute to be shown in places that it shouldn't, where it is specifically harmful

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    6. Esteban K –  🦀 ⚙️@home‏ @ekuber 9 Jan 2018
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      There's some work around matching in that attribute to avoid that problem: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/44755 …

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    7. Esteban K –  🦀 ⚙️@home‏ @ekuber 9 Jan 2018
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      (Unless I'm misunderstanding the problem)

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    8. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 9 Jan 2018
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      That seems like the wrong approach. There's never a case where "`T: Iterator` is not satisfied" is more useful than "Try calling `.iter()` or a similar method". Stating "don't change your error due to this impl" so that we see "`T: IntoIterator` is not satisfied" is more helpful

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    9. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 9 Jan 2018
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      Twitter is also a bit too brief to discuss this. That example is flawed because the `rustc_on_unimplemented` attr of `Iterator` probably actually belongs on `IntoIterator`, and is in its current place to work around this general issue. Hopefully I will have the RFC by Friday

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    10. Esteban K –  🦀 ⚙️@home‏ @ekuber 9 Jan 2018
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      Will be eager to see it! I feel that the solution is better fitting cases like iterating over a &str, where .iter() doesn't exist, but .chars() does: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46216 … I also think that very few of these suggestions should be completely unbounded.

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 9 Jan 2018
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      I'm using "a Python programmer who assumes you can iterate over tuples" for my example, but yeah same basic issue

      2:35 PM - 9 Jan 2018 from Albuquerque, NM
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