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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. Carol (Nichols || Goulding)‏ @Carols10cents 2 Aug 2017
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      What would such a mechanism look like? What would its goals be?

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    2. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 2 Aug 2017
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      Oh, just the usual matters of governance. Representativeness & proportionality, accountability, etc. Usual mix of quantitative mechanisms?

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    3. Carol (Nichols || Goulding)‏ @Carols10cents 2 Aug 2017
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      I would think the quantitative mechanisms would have to be weighted somehow by experience, etc, which gets us back to "core team decides"

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    4. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 2 Aug 2017
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      Surely there are many ways of summing and weighting governance questions, many producing very different outcomes than that.

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    5. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 2 Aug 2017
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      Point is at moment governance structure has very sharp line between in & out, where out is strictly advisory, no defined powers.

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    6. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 2 Aug 2017
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      I suspect that over time & with increasing scale, that might be worth reconsidering. Many projects grow formal vote or veto mechanisms.

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    7. Carol (Nichols || Goulding)‏ @Carols10cents 2 Aug 2017
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      Yeah I'm imagining "50% of v casually-involved people say no = veto" which doesn't seem great either, but that may not be what you mean

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    8. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 2 Aug 2017
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      My point is as-written, Rust's consensus model grants a participant in process no defined say. Subteam-lead has final call.

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    9. Carol (Nichols || Goulding)‏ @Carols10cents 2 Aug 2017
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      That's not all that's promised-- we claim to try to explore and consider all tradeoffs raised by anyone

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    10. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 2 Aug 2017
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      That's kinda my point: consideration is strictly advisory. There's no defined amount of objection that would equal a definite no.

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 2 Aug 2017
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      FWIW if there were a more defined path to joining a subteam, I think that would help

      3:53 PM - 2 Aug 2017 from Ottawa - Gatineau
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