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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. Uncle Bob Martin‏ @unclebobmartin 26 Apr 2014
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      @pragdave Since there’s no Theos involved with TDD; that definition does not apply. His use of the term is, and is meant to be, offensive.

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    2. Dave Thomas‏ @pragdave 26 Apr 2014
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      @unclebobmartin there are no kalashnikovs in TTD either, but you choose that definition. I think it's clear @dhh meant following blindly.

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. Brice Ruth‏ @bdruth 26 Apr 2014
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      .@pragdave not using TDD or a better alternative seems equivalent to 'I don't believe in science' @unclebobmartin @dhh

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    4. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 26 Apr 2014
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      @bdruth @pragdave @unclebobmartin Requiring test-first as the driver of design or you "don't believe science" is exactly the fundamentalism.

      4 replies 2 retweets 8 likes
    5. Uncle Bob Martin‏ @unclebobmartin 26 Apr 2014
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      @dhh @bdruth @pragdave Who has demanded that TDD is required as the driver of design? Tests are one among many such drivers.

      10 replies 7 retweets 12 likes
    6. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 26 Apr 2014
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      @unclebobmartin @bdruth @pragdave Maybe all we need is a TDD 2.0 :). Focus on the eradication of fear, enable confident changes. Less design

      5 replies 3 retweets 9 likes
    7. Martin Fowler‏Verified account @martinfowler 26 Apr 2014
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      @dhh @unclebobmartin I've always felt that self-testing code is the most valuable outcome of TDD. I often find design aspect useful too.

      8 replies 4 retweets 8 likes
    8. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 26 Apr 2014
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      @martinfowler @unclebobmartin Main contortions I see in the Rails world are around trying to isolate controller tests and prevent DB access.

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    9. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 27 Apr 2014
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      @dhh @martinfowler @unclebobmartin Do you think the issue there is just trying to isolate library code? Never stub code you don't own

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    10. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 27 Apr 2014
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      @sgrif @martinfowler @unclebobmartin It's funny, I do the OPPOSITE. Only mock/stub code I don't control.

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 27 Apr 2014
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      @dhh @martinfowler @unclebobmartin Interesting. Could you elaborate? Are you referring to third party services?

      5:35 AM - 27 Apr 2014
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        1. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 27 Apr 2014
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          @sgrif @martinfowler @unclebobmartin Third-party services, standard lib (like Date), and other gems.

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        2. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 27 Apr 2014
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          @dhh If the point of some code is to interact with the database, using a stub instead of a real relation is absurd.

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