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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. Manish‏ @ManishEarth Aug 18
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      well, no, you can control the rust bindings but maybe not the C header.

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    2. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Aug 18
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      I can't control every -sys crate out there

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    3. Manish‏ @ManishEarth Aug 18
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      https://twitter.com/ManishEarth/status/1295729273857167360 …

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      Replying to @sgrif @yaahc_ and 3 others
      yeah, this doesn't obviate the need for CString, but it obviates the need for CString in footgun-prone APIs you control
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    4. Manish‏ @ManishEarth Aug 18
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      i.e., i can use it in *my* sys crates

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    5. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Aug 18
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      Right, I get that. But there's a ton of code out there that doesn't or won't know to do this.

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    6. Manish‏ @ManishEarth Aug 18
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      right, i don't dispute that :) i agree that CString cannot be deprecated, it is useful in far too many ways and for cases like the one you say before, my original point in this thread was that CString cannot be deprecated

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    7. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Aug 18
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      Right. What I'd love to see is a change that removes the footgun for everyone (which does imply deprecating as_ptr), but doing that in a way which interops with existing code taking *const char and resists misuse is important

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    8. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Aug 18
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      Any solution which requires you to know about the footgun and actively do something to avoid it isn't any better than the current situation

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    9. Manish‏ @ManishEarth Aug 18
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      That's true. I think replacing as_ptr with an &*const c_char method could be good but it does have some similar issues

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    10. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Aug 18
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      Yeah that seems really easy to try doing a pointer cast instead of a dereference. Making &c_char created from a *c_char not UB seems most tractable to me

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Aug 18
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      The biggest upside of that RFC is that if CStr guarantees its memory repr we can have bindgen always generate &CStr for arguments, but: This means we lose the ability to do takes_cstr(returns_cstr()) That doesn't help with all the existing code out there taking *const char

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        1. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Aug 18
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          Also not everyone uses bindgen and I don't necessarily expect everyone writing a c binding to know "&CStr has the same memory repr as *const c_char and I should always use that"

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