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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Jun 16
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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️ Retweeted The New York Times

      Why should your religious beliefs give you the right to know or care about your employees' genitals or what they do with them?https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1272921975682457607 …

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      The New York TimesVerified account @nytimes
      Conservative Christian groups say Monday’s U.S. Supreme Court ruling protecting the rights of gay and transgender workers could lead to years of lawsuits against religious organizations, many of which refuse to employ LGBT people https://nyti.ms/37zTfNH 
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    2. Zack M. Davis‏ @zackmdavis Jun 16
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      Good question! My attempt to answer: in the culture of conservative Christians, a person's sex (as in biological sex, not intercourse) is construed as socially-relevant public information. Modern progressive culture disagrees. 1/3

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    3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Jun 16
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      Replying to @zackmdavis

      What determines biological sex though? Chromosomes have been understood for less than a century, so using them as a baseline for conservative Christians doesn't really make sense (esp if the argument is that they don't change with culture).

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    4. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Jun 16
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      And then it seems like the go to answer would be genitals. So are trans folks who have had bottom surgery fine in that case? And it comes back to my original point that employers do not otherwise get to know about folks genitals

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    5. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Jun 16
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      Replying to @sgrif @zackmdavis

      If you're claiming that there's a religious exemption to not employing someone for being gay, isn't that implying that sex as in intercourse is considered socially relevant public information as well?

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Jun 16
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      To be clear, the main point I'm trying to make is that even if you ignore societal changes, claiming there should be a religious exemption here still seems ridiculous to me as it implies you should have a right to know details that no other employer does

      4:35 PM - 16 Jun 2020
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        1. Zack M. Davis‏ @zackmdavis Jun 16
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          I agree that a special religious exemption doesn't make sense; the appeal would be to a principle of freedom of association. (LGBT folx probably prefer not to work for conservative Christians, anyway! And that's an important right!)

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