[me, trying to make a joke for too narrow an intersection of people] boy, too bad we didn't base std::future on oil futures, huh? even better than a "zero cost abstraction" would be a "negative cost abstraction"pic.twitter.com/xJol49kXxb
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[me, trying to make a joke for too narrow an intersection of people] boy, too bad we didn't base std::future on oil futures, huh? even better than a "zero cost abstraction" would be a "negative cost abstraction"pic.twitter.com/xJol49kXxb
okay so, what system out there is totally falling apart because it used an unsigned number to store price, since it'd never be cheaper than zero!
I don't get how that works. Shouldn't he have gotten a few mil for buying those contracts at negative prices, and then also been in possession of a few million barrels of oil?
The legality of who has possession isn’t the issue as I understand it, it’s the actually taking delivery of the stuff that’s the hard part. (Unless you have un-used storage for a few mil barrels) Unless you can pay someone to take the contract off your hands, that’s expected.
Right, but what I'm missing is how the loss actually occurs. I get that storage was full in Cushing so there wasn't really any way to actually take delivery. But how does that result in a monetary loss? That would require having sold the contract
And from that article, it sounds like the software literally couldn't process trades with negative prices, which would have prevented selling (and a lot of the language used implies that's exactly what happened -- specifically "locked in").
I'm assuming the exchange automatically bought it from them since that's where the bill came from, but then where does the oil actually go? If there's no storage left presumably the exchange can't take delivery either.
At that point I’m guessing they have to start paying storage fees to whoever has physical possession kinda like “bud either I unload this tanker or you start paying me rent for storage space for your oil”
Yeah it seems like there must be a cash settlement built into the contract itself -- though I can't seem to find the actual text of that contract anywhere.
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