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    1. Olivier Lacan‏ @olivierlacan Feb 27
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      Is there anyone still actively working on helping Windows user install Ruby & Rails without using WSL? It seems like RailsInstaller for Windows stalled at Ruby 2.3 which reached end of life last year. Ruby 2.4 looks like it never made it out of beta. Is WSL the way to go?

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    2. Olivier Lacan‏ @olivierlacan Feb 27
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      @shanselman seems to think WSL2 is a great way to run Rails on Windows which feels encouraging. https://www.hanselman.com/blog/RubyOnRailsOnWindowsIsNotJustPossibleItsFabulousUsingWSL2AndVSCode.aspx … WSL sure seems a lot less hacky than RailsInstaller ever was.

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    3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Feb 27
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      Replying to @olivierlacan @shanselman

      I think the biggest benefit here, especially for newer devs, is that they don't need to find "what is the Windows version of x". Things like rbenv or chruby are just what you use. There's a lot of docs on how to use various gems on Linux that applies to WSL

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    4. Scott Hanselman‏Verified account @shanselman Feb 27
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      Our goal is for a Windows dev to show up on some site and see some instructions that say "open terminal, you'll see $ now type..." and not be excluded.

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    5. Olivier Lacan‏ @olivierlacan Feb 28
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      Seems like people (*cough*, @samsaffron) are saying WSL2 is worth it for serious Ruby development on Windows but there are major issues hindering adoption: the need for an experimental Windows build, networking quirks, differences in file locations, etc.

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    6. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Feb 28
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      Replying to @olivierlacan @shanselman @samsaffron

      You don't need an experimental Windows build, that's outdated info

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    7. Sam Saffron‏ @samsaffron Feb 28
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      WSL2 is no longer only a thing only in the slow ring? I was pretty sure that is pending release, but I certainly may be wrong. Google says windows is at 18362 and WSL2 needs 18917 ... I may of course be totally off here, I do use Arch after all

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    8. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Feb 28
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      I'm on 18362, which shipped with the laptop I'm on, and everything I needed to install Ubuntu from the windows store was available without opting into anything

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    9. Sam Saffron‏ @samsaffron Feb 28
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      Yeah you are on WSL1, IO is really really really bad compared to WSL2, try running Discourse without bootsnap, it is 30 seconds to just bring up a rails console. Unicorn does not work. Bringing up a console on WSL2 is 10x faster.

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    10. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Feb 28
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      Replying to @samsaffron @olivierlacan @shanselman

      Oh interesting. I haven't noticed anything too crazy bad (a few things are slower than I'd expect, but nothing 30s slower). I'll update to an insider build when I get home and try updating to WSL2

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Feb 28
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      IO on Windows is just slow in general so I didn't think much of it

      3:45 PM - 28 Feb 2020
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        1. Scott Hanselman‏Verified account @shanselman Feb 28
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          WSL1 -> Fast on Windows file system /mnt/c, slow on ~ filesystem WSL2 (soon) -> Slow on Windows file system, 5x-10x faster on ~ EXT4 own file systme

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