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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. (1/10)xEngiNieR: Automata‏ @mgattozzi Jan 6
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      Ah I see /r/rust is having another "are lots of deps bad thread." And no sorry cargo-crev is not a solution. Coming from a position of "I don't trust anyone's code" is such a crap world view. "I trust people to do the right thing unless proven otherwise" is how society works.

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    2. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Jan 6
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      I agree with your general take, but trusting people to do the right thing still doesn't mean I'm going to leave them unattended with my laptop signed in with a terminal to my production database open. (But cargo-crev is still not a solution)

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    3. (1/10)xEngiNieR: Automata‏ @mgattozzi Jan 6
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      I really should have put a disclaimer here with a big asterisk "for deps" Really it's more like you inviting someone to hang out at your house and not fuck things up, not locking your car.

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    4. Pietro Albini‏ @pietroalbini Jan 6
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      Well, a crate can execute arbitrary code at build time: with a lot of tools and CLIs storing authentication keys or other sensitive data in home directories by default, the amount of bad stuff a rogue dependency could do is huge.

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    5. (1/10)xEngiNieR: Automata‏ @mgattozzi Jan 6
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      I'm not saying it won't. I am saying that in the grand scheme of things it's lower on my priority list of security threats. My deps are not as likely to cause security issues in a service I write. It's my own code.

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Jan 6
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      If your company's net worth is in the tens or hundreds of millions and you're processing sensitive information you should absolutely be investing in auditing your dependencies. For most shops this isn't worth the time, but it's unfortunate that bigcos don't invest in it either

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        2. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif Jan 6
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          It's frustrating for me to see both sides of this argument, because IMO the people who don't need to care over-estimate the threat and the people who *do* need to care under-estimate it

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        3. (1/10)xEngiNieR: Automata‏ @mgattozzi Jan 6
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          Where I work I absolutely need to care, but in my own code outside of work 🤷‍♂️ it's about your threat model. It's highly contextual. Just for the most part it's not to me as big of an issue and tools like cargo crev are just reactionary. It doesn't solve a problem.

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