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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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      You really don't have enough appreciation for Option::map until you try to do the same thing in C++ (while keeping everything on the stack)

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    2. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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      Sorry, left out some context. Try to do the same thing in C++ with pointers only. 😭

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    3. Izzy Muerte‏ @slurpsmadrips 26 Nov 2019
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      Got a code snippet? :v

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    4. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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      Already left work but here's something I'm typing on my phone: void dostuff(Bar &bar) { // Foo need not last after this function Foo f(bar); // ... } I want a way to make bar into a pointer that can be null. I want f to become a pointer that is null if bar is null.

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    5. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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      Oh and I want everything to stay on the stack. So far I'm having to use new/delete which really sucks. I can't even use a smart pointer because that has a different type.

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    6. Izzy Muerte‏ @slurpsmadrips 26 Nov 2019
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      Why not use a unique pointer with a custom Deleter and a ::pointer to keep the types compatible? You could also do some magic with placement new

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    7. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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      That would definitely solve the problem of having to add delete everywhere (this is very branchy code), but it doesn't help the fact that it's heap allocated. I'd be adding a lot of complexity without really getting the code I'm after

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    8. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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      (I'm fairly confident that there is no nice way to express what I want in C++ so I'm pretty resigned to my new/delete solution even though it isn't great)

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    9. Izzy Muerte‏ @slurpsmadrips 26 Nov 2019
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      Mmmmm i dunno about that. c++ can’t express reflection and regular void and that’s about it. If you want me to sign an NDA or something I bet I could help out with this ;)

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    10. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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      Hehe I'm sure we could come up with something a little complicated that fixes the issue. I'm more sad that I can't just write this code in a straightforward way 😅

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @Sunjay03 @slurpsmadrips

      Forgive me if this is stupid, but is there a reason you can't use `std::optional<&Bar>` here?

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        2. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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          Sunjay Retweeted Sunjay

          Yeah, sadly I can't use the STL pretty much at all.https://twitter.com/Sunjay03/status/1199458708553715712?s=20 …

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          Wait, really? Even if I delete? I think we're on either 14 or 11. Definitely not 20. And we (almost) don't use the STL at all.
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        3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Nov 2019
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          At that point aren't you pretty much writing C with more confusing rules about the .ctors section?

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        2. Izzy Muerte‏ @slurpsmadrips 26 Nov 2019
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          two reasons 1) &Bar is not how references are written in C++ :v 2) std::optional<T&> doesn't exist because some people on the committee are VERY MAD about "rebinding references", despite us already having types in C++ that do this.

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        3. Sunjay‏ @Sunjay03 26 Nov 2019
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          I could do optional<Bar> or something but I have no optional type so I'm stuck with pointers.

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