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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. James!‏ @_jak 16 Jul 2019
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      out of curiosity, what makes it unacceptable?

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    2. Andrew Kelley‏ @andy_kelley 16 Jul 2019
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      geometric growth of what? binary artifact file size? compilation times?

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    3. Andrew Kelley‏ @andy_kelley 16 Jul 2019
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      Is that a problem with cargo? It seems like the problem is having dependencies in general.

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    4. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 16 Jul 2019
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      There's at least a 2 order of magnitude difference there. Cargo makes things easy, but microdependencies is not a part of Rust culture

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 16 Jul 2019
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      Given how hard it is to get an engineering role at Google, it's disappointing to hear that folks have such siloed experiences. This is roughly the dependency story of any other major language out there today (mostly thinking Python, Ruby, etc).

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        2. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 16 Jul 2019
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          I'd expect folks in a role at Google to have more experience. "we've only done C++" feels like a poor excuse given how many people try to work there.

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        2. James Tucker‏ @raggi 16 Jul 2019
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          It is unacceptable to say that "every language community can accept this risk" as a justification for putting billions of private lives at risk. Also, FTR, I used to vendor all my ruby deps, and read them all. Hell I patched most of them. Check the author list on the top 1000.

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        3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 16 Jul 2019
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          I would expect that Google of all places has the resources to audit it's dependencies. Either way, I don't see how this makes cargo unsuitable as a build tool. You can leave the dependencies section blank.

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        1. James Tucker‏ @raggi 16 Jul 2019
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          This isn't about a lack of experience, it's about threat model. A large scale organization must manage licensing, security and many other dependency related concerns with faaaaar more care than average. Consider the risk for a moment. Billions of people.

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