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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. Derek Prior‏ @derekprior 7 Sep 2018
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      Derek Prior Retweeted Nate Berkopec

      I know that’s a major reason why I don’t use them more often. I was bitten by reject vs reject! In one of my more notable “oh shit. I just broke everything” events.https://twitter.com/nateberkopec/status/1038125248045047809 …

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      Nate Berkopec @nateberkopec
      One reason I think that the ! variants of Enumerable/Array methods are underused (map!, sort_by! etc) is because it's hard to remember which ones have differed returned values (e.g. compact vs compact!)
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    2. Nate Berkopec‏ @nateberkopec 7 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @derekprior

      Happens to me w/map! and compact! constantly.

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    3. Jer Will Vote‏ @doctorzaius 7 Sep 2018
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      Is there a reason to prefer the destructive/! version other than performance (because Ruby)? My default is to use non-destructive methods and treat collections immutable/append-only. Defer optimization.

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    4. Derek Prior‏ @derekprior 7 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @doctorzaius @nateberkopec

      Agree. I've had very few cases in apps where the reduced allocations of the `!` methods mattered. However, I also see people intentionally use the ! methods for their different returns which makes the code hard for me to understand.

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    5. Nate Berkopec‏ @nateberkopec 7 Sep 2018
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      We really got a big speedup on the sentry-raven gem with `!` methods, because half of that gem's work is essentially putting very large hashes through a series of mutations. When you need !, you really really need it.

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    6. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 7 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @nateberkopec @derekprior @doctorzaius

      Gems are an entirely different animal though. They tend to have hotter hot paths than app code, and are more likely to live in the hot path than not. Plus as an author of a gem you have more of a responsibility to your users to pay attention to perf

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 7 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @sgrif @nateberkopec and

      But that doesn't mean that changes which are significant in gems are something that app developers should care about or are likely to benefit from, unless it's somewhere that there's a known perf problem.

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        2. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 7 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @sgrif @nateberkopec and

          Most pathological example -- I remember a few years ago way too many people were sharing an article "http://block.call  is twice as slow as yield!!!!" telling app developers to stop using `&block` which was just...........

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        3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 7 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @sgrif @nateberkopec and

          That case is VM specific, and also just not important. It's 8ns on my personal machine, which will not add up to a measurable difference in app or gem code. We have *one* place in Rails which cares https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/dd29fabebf1b702031213361b7757be5892cd59f/activerecord/lib/active_record/attribute_methods/read.rb#L67-L79 … and it's the hottest of hot paths

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