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    1. a quiet misdreavus‏ @QuietMisdreavus 28 Jul 2018
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      howdy #rustlang folks! it's been a while since i repped a cool rustdoc PR, but today i have a doozy. a PR just landed that shows when a type implements some trait that was impl'd generically! for example, the ToString trait, previously nowhere to be found, now appears on types!pic.twitter.com/BpLt5eRuiR

      screenshot of rust API documentation, showing a new "Blanket Implementations" section featuring traits implemented generically
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    2. Andor Uhlár‏ @andor44 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @QuietMisdreavus @rustlang

      On the one hand this is a big win for discoverability, on the other I'm afraid it's gonna make the already not so easy to read doc pages for some types even harder, wdyt?

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    3. a quiet misdreavus‏ @QuietMisdreavus 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @andor44 @rustlang

      what would make it harder? this is an additional section to the bottom of the page - it's not interrupting anything that was already there

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    4. Andor Uhlár‏ @andor44 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @QuietMisdreavus @rustlang

      Don't get me wrong, I think this change is awesome, I'm just a bit wary of adding *even more* to the type doc page.

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    5. a quiet misdreavus‏ @QuietMisdreavus 29 Jul 2018
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      how do you define what is "essential stuff", without human input by the author of the crate? what happens when they don't provide that definition? the purpose of a given page of docs is to show everything you can do with a thing, even if that turns out to be a lot

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    6. a quiet misdreavus‏ @QuietMisdreavus 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @QuietMisdreavus @andor44 @rustlang

      like, i get it, there's a lot going on, and we've taken strides to streamline this by auto-folding things like trait impls and type definitions but like, my personal opinion is that rustdoc should show you everything that can be known about a type

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    7. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @QuietMisdreavus @andor44 @rustlang

      There are a few that I think should be excluded here across the board (as in purely special cased, no hooks) In particular the impls that apply to *every* type (from, into, any at least)

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    8. Jonathan Turner‏ @jntrnr 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @sgrif @QuietMisdreavus and

      Can you say more as to why? Users (especially new ones) still need to know they're available

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    9. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @jntrnr @QuietMisdreavus and

      They apply to all types. We should have a "here are the impls that apply for all types" Repeating them on each type is more noise than it's worth imo

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    10. Jonathan Turner‏ @jntrnr 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @sgrif @QuietMisdreavus and

      Thinking about how that would work in practice. User goes to i32 or vector, and looks at the methods it provides. Are you saying don't show the common methods in the list but rather on a separate page?

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 29 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @jntrnr @QuietMisdreavus and

      I'm saying that showing that you can do `let x: i32 = 1i32.into()` is not useful

      7:28 PM - 29 Jul 2018 from Albuquerque, NM
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        2. Jonathan Turner‏ @jntrnr 29 Jul 2018
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          Replying to @sgrif @QuietMisdreavus and

          I was asking about where the knowledge of being able to do .into() on the given type should live in the docs. Sounds like you were commenting on something else?

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        3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 29 Jul 2018
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          Replying to @jntrnr @QuietMisdreavus and

          I think showing `Into` impls is super useful, but we don't need to show that a type can be converted into itself over and over again.

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        2. Jonathan Turner‏ @jntrnr 29 Jul 2018
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          Replying to @sgrif @QuietMisdreavus and

          Sounds like maybe we're talking about two different things?

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        3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 29 Jul 2018
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          Replying to @jntrnr @QuietMisdreavus and

          I'm referring to the screenshot above which shows `impl<T> From<T> for T`, `impl<T> Borrow<T> for T`, `impl<T> Any for T`, and the transitive impls from that. These aren't terribly useful to know in the first place, and just don't need to be repeated on *every* type

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