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Co lead of the http://crates.io  team. Creator of @dieselframework. Former host of @_bikeshed and @_yakshave. Former Rails comitter. Enby. they/them

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    1. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Jul 2018
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      "Note first that Rust toolchains are regularly tested against the entire http://crates.io  ecosystem" I really wish we'd stop claiming this is true.

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    2. Aaron Turon‏ @aaron_turon 26 Jul 2018
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      Say more? I realize there are caveats, but this is a major part of the work the Release Team does on a regular basis.

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    3. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Jul 2018
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      I think it's misleading to say "the entire http://crates.io  ecosystem" when it doesn't even include the 10 most downloaded crates. Anything that: - Is windows specific - Requires at least one feature enabled - Requires system libraries is not tested.

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    4. Aaron Turon‏ @aaron_turon 26 Jul 2018
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      I believe that the testing harness is set up with some special configuration for crates that require system libraries. I'm not sure what you mean about enabling features -- are there critical crates that literally don't work with the default feature set? Windows point is legit.

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    5. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Jul 2018
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      None of diesel_cli, diesel_infer_schema, or diesel_migrations work without a feature enabled

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    6. Aaron Turon‏ @aaron_turon 26 Jul 2018
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      Have you talked to the Infra Team about getting this to work?

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    7. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Jul 2018
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      I haven't. I didn't think it was a large enough priority to bring up. I can bring it up on Tuesday if you think it's worth doing

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    8. Aaron Turon‏ @aaron_turon 26 Jul 2018
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      If you feel worried that we're not getting a sufficient sample of the ecosystem on this basis, then it seems worth reaching out.

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    9. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Jul 2018
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      Including Windows specific crates would be a much higher priority IMO. It's not that I'm worried that we aren't getting a sufficient sample, I just don't think we should pretend that it's more than exactly that: A sufficiently large sample

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    10. Aaron Turon‏ @aaron_turon 26 Jul 2018
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      OK, I was concerned because you were talking about putting "too much trust" in a Crater run, but if you feel like it's by-and-large a sufficient sample (which I believe as well), then I think it's just a question of precise phrasing, which I don't care much about here.

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      Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Jul 2018
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      I definitely don't think a crater run should be used as a justification for a breaking change, since not all Rust code is open source, and not all open source code is on http://crates.io . But for what it is trying to do, I think it's definitely a good sample

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        1. Miss Dada  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 26 Jul 2018
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          https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51934 … comes to mind specifically as a case where crater was used in this way. I've seen that sort of thing pretty frequently, and been bitten by it more than once.

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        2. Aaron Turon‏ @aaron_turon 26 Jul 2018
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          I mean, no question Crater is a used as a mean to gauge "permissible" breakage, i.e. things that are permitted by our official SemVer policy but where we don't want to cause significant pain in the ecosystem. Is that what you mean? If so, do you have an alternative in mind?

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