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    Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 18 Sep 2015

    By npm's best estimates, 50% of node.js users started using node less than 12 months ago. We are a community of newbies.

    10:54 AM - 18 Sep 2015
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      2. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        Keep this in mind when you write articles, build modules, design frameworks. The majority of your users are brand-new to this thing.

        9 replies 49 retweets 44 likes
      3. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        Think about the implications when you design for security, validation, robustness, scalability. Most of your users will not have strategies.

        2 replies 9 retweets 7 likes
      4. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        Showing a code example that uses ES6 syntax? Explain WTF ES6 is. Your users just turned up from browser land and have never heard of it.

        6 replies 12 retweets 22 likes
      5. Kyle J. Kemp‏ @seiyria 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        @seldo @Fishrock123 so... not only explain what my post is trying to explain, but explain all the ES6 too? I'd just link to babel/learn-es6

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seiyria

        @seiyria @Fishrock123 A link is fine! I see tons of tutorials just using ES6 without explaining that it won't actually run as-is.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. sMyle‏Verified account @MylesBorins 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        @seldo it would be particularly interesting to find out what communication channels those developers are using, and what education resources

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @MylesBorins

        @thealphanerd As far as we can tell, they are swimming around in a sea of disjointed tutorials and getting very frustrated.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. sMyle‏Verified account @MylesBorins 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        @seldo sounds like something we can all work on fixing :P Maybe a better first touch on http://nodejs.org  /cc @mikeal

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. sMyle‏Verified account @MylesBorins 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @MylesBorins

        @seldo @mikeal This talk by @jeresig has some amazing points about how to treat new developers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VzoaJzFL3g …

        1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes
      6. Chris DeLauder‏ @beaglebets 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @MylesBorins

        @thealphanerd @seldo @mikeal @jeresig Agreed. What is missing on http://nodejs.org  is a really solid official tutorial.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Matthias Reuter‏ @gweax 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        @seldo I started using node a year ago, but have nine years of professional JS experience. Does that qualify as a newbie?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @gweax

        @gweax Expert-level, as far as I'm concerned.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Matthias Reuter‏ @gweax 19 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        @seldo Yep, that's my point. Being new to node doesn't necessarily mean being a newbie.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Brock Whitten‏ @sintaxi 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        @seldo @izs remarkable. I suppose that means by this time next year 50% of node users will have started on node v4 and npm v3.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. isaacs‏Verified account @izs 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @sintaxi

        @sintaxi @seldo indeed! welcome to the fascinatingly counterintuitive realities of exponential growth!

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. ロービ‏ @robey 18 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        @seldo in my dark hours, i think this describes our entire industry, in perpetuity. eternal september with permanent amnesia.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. What's on your mind, Claudio?‏ @claudiopro 19 Sep 2015
        Replying to @seldo

        @seldo @joemccann it did feel weird back in 2013 when we had the opportunity to meet the people who built Node all together in the same room

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. What's on your mind, Claudio?‏ @claudiopro 19 Sep 2015
        Replying to @claudiopro

        @seldo @joemccann now my feelings are mixed. Large enterprises buying into the platform make it feel less free than it was before.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Joe McCann‏Verified account @joemccann 19 Sep 2015
        Replying to @claudiopro

        @claudiopro @seldo if anything, the growth from 2013 has made the project infinitely better

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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