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    1. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 15 Sep 2017
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      I agree patents are extremely stupid. But then if everyone used FB’s license, patent wars couldn’t even happen. Fixing law in userland.

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    2. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 15 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @dan_abramov @mjackson and

      If everyone used FB's license, but everyone violates *someones* patents, then all OSS licenses would be revoked. OSS would be closed.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @BenLesh @dan_abramov and

      Nah - everyone violates *someone's* patents, then _nobody could sue each other_

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    4. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 15 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @AdamRackis @dan_abramov and

      and if I'm a small company that wants to defend my claim to keep a large company I can't afford to compete with like FB from destroying me?

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    5. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 15 Sep 2017
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      Via patents? So you think patents are a fair system? Then I don’t understand why Facebook can’t be allowed to countersue within same system.

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    6. Raúl Kripalani‏ @raulvk 15 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @dan_abramov @BenLesh and

      Dan, patent trolls are non practising entities that don't use React, GraphQL or anything. Full stop. FB's whole argument doesn't add up.

      2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
    7. Raúl Kripalani‏ @raulvk 15 Sep 2017
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      Nobody else in the industry has adopted your license model, 3 years after you introduced it. Why? Please take your pink coloured glasses off

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    8. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 15 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @raulvk @BenLesh and

      It’s not popular in open source. But e.g. some Google APIs we are using have a similar license. FB is happy because it doesn’t want to sue.

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 15 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @dan_abramov @raulvk and

      Part of the reason it’s not popular is because Facebook is uncommon in that it open sources core pieces of its stack.

      2 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
    10. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 15 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @dan_abramov @acdlite and

      I don't really buy this argument. Uber, Google and others open source core tech that runs their businesses.

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      Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 15 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @sebmck @dan_abramov and

      Google for example open source projects: Android, Chrome, Chrome OS, TensorFlow, Polymer, only to name a few. Core business tech.

      4:43 PM - 15 Sep 2017 from Wandsworth, London
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        1. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 15 Sep 2017
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          I know you said uncommon but when there's so many exceptions it seems silly to use FB being special as an argument.

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        2. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 15 Sep 2017
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          Of these examples, I think only TensorFlow qualifies as core, and it’s fairly recent. The rest are platforms they want others to use.

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        1. Sebastian Markbåge‏ @sebmarkbage 15 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @sebmck @dan_abramov and

          So how do they defend themselves?

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        2. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 15 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @sebmarkbage @dan_abramov and

          Same way any other company does? It's unclear what sort of companies the patent clause even protects FB from.

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        1. Mary Branscombe‏ @marypcbuk 15 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @sebmck @dan_abramov and

          They're not the core of Google's business; they're supports to it

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        2. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 15 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @marypcbuk @dan_abramov and

          What do you define as Googles core business and why do you think the projects I list aren't involved?

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        1. David Ascher  🤔‏ @davidascher 15 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @sebmck @dan_abramov and

          Sure, and they have patents. The FB license _relaxes_ the patent rights.

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        1. Raúl Kripalani‏ @raulvk 15 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @sebmck @dan_abramov and

          Here's a more comprehensive list of important projects and their licenses.https://medium.com/@raulk/list-of-companies-and-popular-projects-by-the-open-source-licenses-they-use-35a53eaf1c80 …

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