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@lbljeffmo @domenic @jumbleofideas @mikeal i just use `require` and i don't even need to think about it

@sebmck what if the npm module is ES? @domenic @jumbleofideas @mikeal

@sebmck back to the orig topic -- point is that interop is useful *and* has flaws. The two don't have to be mutex @jumbleofideas @mikeal

@sebmck moreover interop isn't about forever, it's about a means of moving forward to ES modules -- a standard that works native everywhere

@lbljeffmo you have to break parts of one of them to get that interop though which isn't ideal

@sebmck definitely not ideal. But in many cases the parts you have to trade-off are acceptable. Globally ideal wouldn't be a productive goal

@lbljeffmo you can't compromise es modules because then node will be deviating from the spec and nobody wants that

@sebmck @lbljeffmo which spec.