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@domenic @lbljeffmo @jumbleofideas @mikeal i even got sick of having to be aware of the cjs -> es module interop in babel that i dont use it

@sebmck interesting, I've found it pretty useful @domenic @jumbleofideas @mikeal

@sebmck (namely -- that I can import any existing node or npm modules) @domenic @jumbleofideas @mikeal

@lbljeffmo @domenic @jumbleofideas @mikeal i just use `require` and i don't even need to think about it

@sebmck what if the npm module is ES? @domenic @jumbleofideas @mikeal

@sebmck back to the orig topic -- point is that interop is useful *and* has flaws. The two don't have to be mutex @jumbleofideas @mikeal

@sebmck moreover interop isn't about forever, it's about a means of moving forward to ES modules -- a standard that works native everywhere

@lbljeffmo you have to break parts of one of them to get that interop though which isn't ideal