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    1. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 9 Nov 2019
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      React is what fills their hiring pipeline. If you think it’s unethical to work there then it’s also unethical to help fill their hiring pipeline.

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    2. Logan‏ @logan_huskins 9 Nov 2019
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      So does any other skill they use, such as JavaScript or programming as a whole. A framework isn't going to fill their hiring pipeline in any meaningful way. Might as well abstain from computers since they could make you look more hireable for all sorts of bad jobs.

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    3. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 9 Nov 2019
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      You should look into some of the statements they’ve made in the past about this. React is its own island and Facebook used to spend a lot of time finding and onboarding engineers, but due to React’s popularity no longer do. It’s the main driver behind their investment.

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    4. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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      I don’t think this is accurate. The main driver behind investment in React is that a lot of business critical stuff is built on it. The main driver behind investment in open source is because the team cared about sharing what we learned with the industry.

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    5. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Nov 2019
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      React is a significant driver for Facebook UIE recruiting. It may not be the motivation of those on the team, but it’s still the largest business benefit, which is what Mikeal was referencing. I have definitely heard that statement said both internally and externally.

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    6. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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      My impression from the past conversations I’ve heard about with the leadership (eg during the patents controversy) is that they see this benefit as marginal. It may have grown since but it’s nowhere compared to the value of the stuff built with it.

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    7. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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      I’m not saying it’s not valuable. It’s just not the “main” driver for investing in React. It wasn’t a driver at all when investment started. And there’s plenty of FB orgs that would never trade “easier to hire people” for all the hassle that comes with an open source project.

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    8. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Nov 2019
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      Orgs isn’t comparable because UIE is an entire role. Recruiting is extremely painful for any large company, especially one involved in controversy. The pain you go through with open source is significant but in the broader business it is fairly insignificant.

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    9. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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      Time spent working on OS concerns is time not spent doing something else. This is the argument teams successfully use to keep projects closed. The same is true for the React team. If you’re saying our work is valuable to FB, it’s not insignificant how we spend our time.

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    10. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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      This conversation is a bit weird to me because I distinctly remember when we had to scramble these talking points (“hey, we can hire people easier”) along other 50 reasons because leadership didn’t believe it was worth the hassle. And now you’re saying it was the main driver.

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      Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Nov 2019
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      I didn’t say it was THE main driver just A main driver. Open source motivations are aligned with internal ones. Have you not encountered scenarios where this has been an issue?

      3:35 AM - 10 Nov 2019 from Fremont, CA
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        2. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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          Sorry. The word “main” to me implies that it’s the most important one, or at least one of the top most important ones. I’m probably being dense 🙂

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        3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Nov 2019
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          No, I think it is one of the most important ones.

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