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    1. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 9 Nov 2019
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      One thing I’d like to see the React Community address in a serious way, given the last few months, is why it’s not a problem that the most problematic tech company in the world completely controls their framework.

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    2. Logan‏ @logan_huskins 9 Nov 2019
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      Considering it is MIT and can be forked at any time, I'm not sure what the issue is. Using it does not make Facebook any more money or support Facebook in any meaningful way.

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    3. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 9 Nov 2019
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      React is what fills their hiring pipeline. If you think it’s unethical to work there then it’s also unethical to help fill their hiring pipeline.

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    4. Logan‏ @logan_huskins 9 Nov 2019
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      So does any other skill they use, such as JavaScript or programming as a whole. A framework isn't going to fill their hiring pipeline in any meaningful way. Might as well abstain from computers since they could make you look more hireable for all sorts of bad jobs.

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    5. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 9 Nov 2019
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      You should look into some of the statements they’ve made in the past about this. React is its own island and Facebook used to spend a lot of time finding and onboarding engineers, but due to React’s popularity no longer do. It’s the main driver behind their investment.

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    6. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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      I don’t think this is accurate. The main driver behind investment in React is that a lot of business critical stuff is built on it. The main driver behind investment in open source is because the team cared about sharing what we learned with the industry.

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    7. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Nov 2019
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      React is a significant driver for Facebook UIE recruiting. It may not be the motivation of those on the team, but it’s still the largest business benefit, which is what Mikeal was referencing. I have definitely heard that statement said both internally and externally.

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    8. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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      My impression from the past conversations I’ve heard about with the leadership (eg during the patents controversy) is that they see this benefit as marginal. It may have grown since but it’s nowhere compared to the value of the stuff built with it.

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      Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Nov 2019
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      React being open source is what has staffed and recruited almost all of the React team. I don’t think there’s really much business altruism, besides from individuals. Same applies to a lot of other open source projects from companies.

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        2. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 10 Nov 2019
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          I don’t disagree with your point about the React team. But React team gets to work on React so it’s a bit of a circular argument.

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        3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Nov 2019
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          It’s not a circular argument if the argument is that React has other business benefit. That other business benefit would not be possible without the current set of people.

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