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    1. Brandon Dail‏ @aweary 9 Jun 2019
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      OK this really confused the heck out of me for a minute. I was using the Flow type argument syntax for useRef and was getting a bunch of weird React ref Turns out my setup isn't compiling out the Flow annotation BUT ITS STILL VALID JAVASCRIPT and it evaluates to 0 😂pic.twitter.com/V2kyDc6MJt

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    2. Mahmoud Hazem‏ @MahmoudHazem13 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @aweary @BrendanEich

      🧐

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    3. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @MahmoudHazem13 @aweary

      In TC39 we discussed reserving : after a declarator so implementations could not de-facto standardize incompatible type annotations. We knew this would oblige us to standardize type anno/expr syntax at some point. We didn't figure on Flow using ambiguous expression syntax! @awbjs

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    4. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @BrendanEich @MahmoudHazem13 @aweary

      sigh…

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    5. Rick Waldron‏ @rwaldron 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @awbjs @BrendanEich and

      IIRC, folks working on Flow + folks working on TypeScript asked for that syntax extension prohibition

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    6. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @rwaldron @awbjs and

      The one on declarator : type-annotation? That's good, but what we see now is the backward-incompatibility of C++-style T<U>(V) parameterized type expression syntax.

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    7. Rick Waldron‏ @rwaldron 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @BrendanEich @awbjs and

      Yes, I was pointing out the uh... irony? Ya know: Flow wants one thing to prevent possibly ambiguous syntax extensions... then makes an ambiguous syntax extension. We're on the same page. It's a bummer for Flow users 🤷🏼‍♂️

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    8. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @rwaldron @awbjs and

      The obvious hack is to require some extra punctuator in type expressions, e.g. T.<U>(V). That's what we were thinking of for ES4.

      2 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
    9. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @BrendanEich @rwaldron and

      Or to put the type params inside: T(<U> V)

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    10. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @awbjs @rwaldron and

      Beware JSX!

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      Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @BrendanEich @awbjs and

      Even worse... In Flow/TS there's already ambiguity with JSX and arrow functions with type parameters. const jsx = <X>() => {}</X>; const arrow = <X>() => {};

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        2. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 10 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @sebmck @awbjs and

          Don't point tags require / before >? (<X/> in the second line)?

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        3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Jun 2019
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          Second line is an arrow function with a type parameter. As a regular function: function foo<bar>() {}

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        2. Naman Goel‏ @naman34 10 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @sebmck @BrendanEich and

          What if we just make JS parsing rules stricter if you want to use JSX and Flow/Typescript. Like requiring spaces around operators. I know we call them supersets of javascript, but maybe they don’t need to be strict supersets.

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        3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @naman34 @BrendanEich and

          That's not really necessary. Ambiguous syntax doesn't mean spec incompatible. Type arguments on calls are the only syntax extensions that cause otherwise valid regular JS to be parsed differently.

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        2. Naman Goel‏ @naman34 10 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @sebmck @BrendanEich and

          the first one would be a syntax error. The curly brackets can’t be empty the rest would treated as the string child of JSX.

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        3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @naman34 @BrendanEich and

          I'm not sure what you're saying. Both lines are valid syntax in TypeScript and Flow. The first line is a JSX element with the string contents "() => {}". The second is an empty arrow function with an X type parameter. https://astexplorer.net/#/gist/b7ec982c0246be182a05ed0c7dbc3dd0/873d02db09fbe182d655663cbeff8d3c3b161244 …

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