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    1. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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      I made a thread yesterday where I made some comments about developing software and features in private. It was based on my own personal experiences, as well as my observations of other projects.

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    2. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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      I deleted the original thread because it was clear that some took it as a personal attack. It was diverging widely from my original points and into debating and rationalizing specific scenarios.

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    3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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      I think the conversation is valuable to have, so I'm reposting with additional context and explanation. I also want to preface this that I'm not making absolute statements nor making any value judgements or criticising anyone.

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    4. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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      The beginning original tweet: I want to release Rome with no prior announcement or early access

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    5. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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      Sebastian Retweeted Sebastian

      (What is Rome? A project I'm working on. See https://twitter.com/sebmck/status/1108407803545214977 … for context)

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      This is a collection of my tweets over the past ~2 years about a project I've been working on. Time and work fluctuated over that period. It was called Sonic, then Hydra. Now it's called Rome. It's a JavaScript toolchain. It has zero dependencies, every thing is custom.
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    6. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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      Why? There's a few reasons. The most important to me mentally, is controlling the hype. I enjoy publicly tweeting about what I'm working on but I'm implicitly setting expectations very high.

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      Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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      Release dates are stressful. They can sometimes result in projects being released when they aren't ready. Babel 6 was a good example. I released it at a conference. It wasn't bad, but I wish I had more time for polish.

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        2. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          With something like Rome, that wants to do so much, deliberately manufacturing hype feels disingenuous to the existing projects that it's meant to be "competing" with.

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        3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          It takes a lot of hubris to say "I want to build a monotool that replaces the functionality of several projects that others have worked extremely hard on. Not only that, I want a big splashy release with lots of hype so I gain a lot of interest and adoption".

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        4. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          To me, I value organic adoption. Now that I've reached a particular position in the community, and people are familiar with the projects I've worked on, anything I release will implicitly get more attention than some others.

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        5. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          I don't want anyone using it because it has X person associated with it. I want it to be used because it's actually useful rather than some flashy new thing that people feel obligated to jump on.

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        6. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          Thinking about it more, there's probably not a lot I can do to prevent it. And doing an "impromptu" release could have the opposite effect. If I didn't want any expectations then I shouldn't have spoken publicly about it at all. That's the main reason I didn't prior.

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        7. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          I don't want early access. I'm afraid of building an ivory tower of privileged people. For Yarn we invited people at the beginning. It allowed them to influence the development process but we overrotated on their feedback.

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        8. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          It's possible to select people who are the most relevant, and I felt like we did. The feedback was valuable, but they weren't necessarily the ones who would actually be invested post-release.

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        9. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          So I spent time satisfying their constraints which would turn out to not be relevant. Again, this can be mitigated if you have a more cohesive community where everyone is mostly on the same page.

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        10. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          Another point is around inclusivity. I don't want anyone to feel left out. No matter how wide you cast the net, there's always going to be someone valuable you've left out. Performing value judgements on people is gross and not really something I want to have to do.

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        11. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          Especially since position in the community, which most use as a measure of relevancy, doesn't necessarily yield the most useful feedback.

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        12. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          I've never received private feedback that wouldn't have been more valuable to have publicly. Once your community reaches a certain size that can be extremely noisy though.

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        13. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          Also depends on the release position of the project. Rome would probably be released as an alpha or beta. Opportunity to change anything, which is typically the purpose of early access.

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        14. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          I feel as though I have the necessary experience and context to build a functional MVP. Any public or private feedback during that time would be unlikely to be unproductive.

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        15. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 9 Jun 2019
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          Anyway, I hope that cleared some things up that were ambiguous from my original tweets. I'm very interested in discussing the higher level points, but I'm uninterested in debating specific scenarios (comparisons are fine).

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