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    1. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 4 Jun 2019
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      @jdalton @sindresorhus @rauschma @IgorMinar @TheLarkInn @kentcdodds @dan_abramov @Rich_Harris Hello fellow open source publishing/bundling folks... I want to start a public discussion about the current "state of the art" for libraries publishing JavaScript modules... 1/6

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    2. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 4 Jun 2019
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      Basically, RxJS is going to undergo (mostly cosmetic) changes over these next few months, and I think it's a good time for us to revisit our strategy for publishing different module types. 2/6

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    3. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 4 Jun 2019
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      Currently, RxJS is publishing: ESM5, ESM2015, CJS, and a single "kitchen-sync" UMD (for classic global script-tag style imports), as well as TypeScript source files for source mapping. Honestly, it's a little out of control. 3/6

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    4. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 4 Jun 2019
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      In your _opinion_, where are we headed? When will be the proper time to just publish ESM2015 (with extensions or whatever we need to do) and forgo building CJS/ESM5 etc? 4/6

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    5. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 4 Jun 2019
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      With the advent of things like @codesandbox, @stackblitz, and @unpkg, is it even necessary that we publish big UMD globals anymore? 5/6

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    6. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 4 Jun 2019
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      Can we all, collectively, decide on one format and push things in that direction over the next year so I can stop building 3-4 different things? 6/6

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    7. Prateek Bhatnagar‏ @_prateekbh 4 Jun 2019
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      // @kristoferbaxter @_developit ^ These two working on same problem

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    8. Jason Miller  🦊 ⚛‏ @_developit 4 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @_prateekbh @BenLesh @kristoferbaxter

      The format is up for debate, what's most important is adding metadata to packages so we know what format (syntax level) it's in.

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    9. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 4 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @_developit @_prateekbh @kristoferbaxter

      Well, it seems, at the very least, the "most modern" format is desirable so downstream tooling can do differential loading. I think @Rich_Harris is onto something with ditching CJS for UMD, and dropping ES5.

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    10. Kristofer Baxter‏ @kristoferbaxter 4 Jun 2019
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      Dropping ES5 means consumers will have to transpile node modules more frequently. Not sure yet this is the right move. Agree on dropping everything but esmodules compatibile, ES5 + esmodule import/export, and UMD. All of these variants need a standardized name in a field/file.

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      Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @kristoferbaxter @BenLesh and

      People have hide behind build performance as an excuse for not transpiling node_modules which is a shame as there's a ton of benefits. Tools should either be faster or developers should just deal with it.

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        1. Kristofer Baxter‏ @kristoferbaxter 5 Jun 2019
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          Agree mostly in the long run. However, it's a substantial jump from the current. An approach which migrates the existing ecosystem to differential serving, allows modules to publish stage 4 compatible code, and allows for caching of intermediary transpiled code seems ideal.

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