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    1. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Oct 2018
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      When I was working on @babeljs, the jQuery Foundation were interested in taking on the project. Then it became the JS Foundation, and now the Node.js Foundation...? I wouldn't feel very good as a project participant with being thrown around like that.

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    2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 4 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @sebmck @babeljs

      Your assumption here is that the projects are deeply impacted by the structural changes of these foundations. Ideally, they aren't. I can only speak well to the Node.js Foundation structure, but the project has a great degree of autonomy from the Foundation.

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    3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Oct 2018
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      Don't get me wrong, I'm happy about the announcement and trust the Node Foundation way more than any other. I'm just wondering how the project maintainers feel. Their projects are legally owned by the foundation, right? Any foundation merging means a transfer for legal ownership?

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    4. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 4 Oct 2018
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      Trademark's and other property (domains) are owned by the Foundation. Copyright is not, it's owned by the contributors. and governance belongs to the projects, usually with a charter in the bylaws or passed immediately by the board after formation. Maintainers own projects.

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    5. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Oct 2018
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      JS Foundation projects seem to own the copyright? https://github.com/webpack/webpack/blob/master/LICENSE#L1 …https://github.com/lodash/lodash/blob/master/LICENSE#L3 …

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    6. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 4 Oct 2018
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      this approach is highly problematic and I've argued against it many times. this obviously isn't a requirement in the Node.js Foundation and we'll see how this shakes out in the merger.

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    7. Ujjwal Sharma‏ @ryzokuken 4 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @mikeal @sebmck @babeljs

      Node.js Foundation does this way better?https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/master/LICENSE#L4 …

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      Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @ryzokuken @mikeal @babeljs

      That's listed as "Node.js contributors" which I guess just means the copyright is owned by whoever the lines blame to.

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        1. Ujjwal Sharma‏ @ryzokuken 4 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @sebmck @mikeal @babeljs

          Exactly. Not the foundation (the legal entity?) but the people who write the code.

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        2. pay essential workers like they’re essential‏ @bitandbang 4 Oct 2018
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          The process for this this is TBD under a new foundation. We're currently in a Town Hall meeting right now, and will be doing 3 more sessions in the next 2 weeks to discuss (ensuring that we're getting it right not only for *existing projects* but *future projects* as well)

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        1. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 4 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @sebmck @ryzokuken @babeljs

          Copyright notices are not binding assignment agreements. It doesn't matter what that says, unless I sign a CLA I own the copyright on my contribution and am just licensing it publicly under the terms of the license.

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