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    1. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Jul 2018
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      99% of the time I see usage of Array.prototype.some and Array.prototype.reduce, it would have been much more readable with a manual loop.

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    2. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Jul 2018
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      This is the example that prompted the tweet. #1 is way more readable to me, do others agree? All the usage I've seen has been similar in readability to this.pic.twitter.com/OVEfJCHQyI

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    3. Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Jul 2018
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      Also, can someone explain to my why #2 is more functional than #1 besides the fact it literally uses more functions.

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    4. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 4 Jul 2018
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      #2 Sets up a pipeline of values through expressions. #1 Does its magic with explicit flow control. IMO, #1 uses implicit side effects, even if the side effects are in flow control, rather than mutating values.

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      Sebastian‏Verified account @sebmck 4 Jul 2018
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      How does #2 not use control Flow? It’s hidden in the implementation details of Array.some. Would the usage of Array.forEach somehow make it declarative because it hides the actual logic?

      1:04 PM - 4 Jul 2018 from Milpitas, CA
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        2. jordwalke  ⚛️🆁‏ @jordwalke 5 Jul 2018
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          #2 is still locally functional, even if its dependency is not. At the end of the day the machine always does some mutation on some bits somewhere even when writing entirely pure code with entirely pure dependencies - but that doesn't make it non-functional.

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        3. jordwalke  ⚛️🆁‏ @jordwalke 5 Jul 2018
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          I like mixed-purity languages that let me perform local "benign"/local mutations that aren't perceivable from the caller. JS can be used this way too.

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        2. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 4 Jul 2018
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          Now you're triggering a discussion about Array.prototype.forEach. Personally, I consider .forEach an anti-pattern.

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        3. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 4 Jul 2018
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          But .some might be implemented with flow control. But it needn't in a functional world. It might be implemented with recursion, too. That is, after all, the point of abstractions.

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        1. Andrzej Kopeć‏ @kapke_ 5 Jul 2018
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          Notice that using Array.forEach requires very explicit side effects (using let, explicitly assigning value) so this would be even less pure than for .. of loop. Using lots of functions doesn't mean it's FP or declarative code

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