from:joyannreid sanders

You are correct. Had the vice president overruled the parliamentarian, it would have taken 60 votes to overturn THAT. Republicans would have lost that vote. But Dems backed down in advance and took the $15 minwage out of the bill. So Sanders’ amendment was a 50+1 like any other.

And then die hard Sanders voters would support them? I highly doubt that. It would be a matter of time before something about them required they step down and that Bernie be given the nomination. This is just a thing at this point.

Notably, none of these tweets are about Ms. Reade, about whom I thought there was great concern. This entire thread is about forcing the nomination out of VP Biden's hands and giving it to Senator Sanders, even though a 43%-32% majority of voters chose Biden. Weird. https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1256332509756809217 …

if Sanders was the nominee or was on his way to gaining the nomination, would his supporters be pushing this case or helping Ms. Reade in the same way? Is she what they care most about, or is it getting that nomination by any means necessary, having not gotten it via votes?

Is it "vetting" you want, or Sanders simply to be granted the nomination without having won it, because that's what you always wanted and voters refused to give it to you?

You have veered completely away from Ms. Reade, which actually makes my point. And all of these buzzwords don't get at the fact that Joe Biden, for better or worse, won more votes than Senator Sanders. He just actually did. No establishment engineered that. Black voters chose.

So now ... Sanders must be made the nominee? That would be a hell of a nonsequitur, no?

First off, VP Biden is not "my leader." I thought the balance of history demanded a female candidate, but not my call. Second, this sounds exactly like the way Sanders supporters have reacted to even reporting on him that has not been positively worshipful, so... yeah...go off.

So Sanders must now be nominated despite not winning because the story didn't bubble enough? Biden has been a public figure since the 1970s and was vetted for vice president. Couldn't this allegation have emerged at any time?

Yeah that seems like a pretty straightforward admission that the endgame here is a Sanders nomination not closure, excluding politics, for Ms. Reade. We've already internalized that the far right tends to view democracy as inconvenient but not insurmountable. That should be rare. https://twitter.com/Wilson__Valdez/status/1256273427264086016 …

That playbook seems pretty straightforward indeed. And it's hard to divorce this from what sure looks like an attempt by some Sanders die-hards to get through a media-driven scandal what they couldn't get via democratic means: their guy as the nominee.

No, and had it been Sanders he would have faced the same kind of campaign, just substitute Cuban communism, chem dumping in TX and those weird 80s fantasy articles. It really wouldn't matter who the Dem nominee was. The same things were going to happen, including the bot assists.

And the "Bernie or Bust" people were never going to vote for Biden (or Warren or Kamala or Jesus The Christ) anyway and if Team Biden is putting them into their turnout calculations they are insane and going to lose anyway. They'll get like 85% or so of the Sanders vote like HRC.

Not talking about non-voters, and you are absolute right about them. These are VOTERS who are saying that because Sanders was not able to garner enough support to get the nomination, they are voting Green or BECOMING non-voters. Very different thing.

To summarize: the Sanders team never developed a strategy to court the majority of black voters, who are self-identified Democrats, and w/o a woman as his main challenger, his socialist pitch failed to move white working class voters out of their conservative, Republican lean.

Huh? The only vote Sanders won in SC: 18-29 year olds, made up just 11% of the electorate while voters 45+ were 2/3. Biden won them 3/1, black voters (56% of the vote) 4/1 and even white voters by 10%. Savaging Biden with no strategy to COURT black voters would have backfired. https://twitter.com/politico/status/1248781580480516100 …