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@NYULMC prof. studying how brains let animals explore & balance — and what went wrong when they can’t. There will be dad jokes. He/him.

NYC, east of 2nd Ave
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    David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

    Would you believe baby fish can teach us how movement develops? Amazingly, we found that a sense of balance is KEY. Come see why in this thread! 1/25https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/538546v1 …

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      2. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Animals coordinate groups of muscles — like arms and legs — to move. Coordination develops. A newborn baby is basically luggage; she stays where she’s put. 2/25pic.twitter.com/jCB8C2QzjZ

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      3. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        But a couple of years later, that same baby skillfully coordinates her arms, legs, and trunk to walk — even when posture is challenged & balancing is hard! #prouddad 3/25pic.twitter.com/chTmNZ2V6B

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      4. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        David Ehrlich wanted to figure out how coordinated locomotion develops. Thanks to baby zebrafish, he figured out that the challenge of staying balanced is incredibly important. 4/25pic.twitter.com/IsJedp5sn8

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      5. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Before he could crack the development of coordination, he needed to understand the physics of vertical movement. Let’s think about how flying machines might go up. 5/25pic.twitter.com/OEK9xUbHKK

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      6. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Consider a rocket. A rocket goes where it is pointed. If you want it to go up, point it up & launch. If you want it to go up at an angle, well, you’ve got to change where its nose is pointed. 6/25pic.twitter.com/Pq7uC6MItl

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      7. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Now this is true for fish — they mostly go (Trajectory) where their nose is pointed (Posture). The diagonal line would be perfect Rocket Style, like in the movie. 7a/25pic.twitter.com/z2VaTQvIJa

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      8. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Check this movie out: the baby fish goes where its nose is pointed!pic.twitter.com/VkqnASZhpk

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      9. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        But there’s another way to go up. A helicopter’s rotors generate lift, so it can go up without rotating it’s “body.” 8/25pic.twitter.com/zVIPzGha37

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      10. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        How about a fish? Can baby fish climb without rotating their bodies?, Oh can they ever! 9a/25pic.twitter.com/u4wCZShZqg

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      11. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        And check out those adorable fins! You're looking at a fish from behind, so the tail is pointing towards you and is slightly out of focus. 9b/25pic.twitter.com/USK6UxUZ7j

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      12. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Are the fins really generating lift? David checked. Without fins, baby fish go all Rocket Style. To climb, they have to change their posture. 10/25pic.twitter.com/bpBSSQ8HTU

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      13. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        So baby fish use their fins to climb. But are they really -coordinating- their fin and body movements? Great question! David compared the body and fin movements to measure fin-body synergies, like so: 11/25pic.twitter.com/t8AgzIdJAX

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      14. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Instead of the No Synergy flat line he saw a strong relationship: the more baby fish rotate their bodies, the more they engage their fins. Do you want synergistic climbs? That’s how you get synergistic climbs. 12/25pic.twitter.com/d9LD2RSXaN

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      15. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Not only that, but check it out: the relationship between body and fins gets stronger as fish develop. Older fish (3 wpf = 3 weeks old) couple bigger fin movements w/smaller body rotations to climb. So older fish climb more stably… 13/25pic.twitter.com/fGTA4brETx

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      16. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Maybe. Is the nervous system really responsible for this “coordination?” David did two key experiments that revealed that yes, yes it is. 14/25pic.twitter.com/tsflOgAPGD

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      17. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        First, he looked at mutant fish with broken inner ears. These baby fish can’t sense gravity’s pull. How do they climb? 15/25pic.twitter.com/eufJAf58QE

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      18. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Gravity-blind mutant fish make similar body and fin movements to their normal siblings. But look! The synergy David saw before is gone! This is a Big Deal because…. 16/25pic.twitter.com/oMW46jqggU

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      19. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        If the mutants can’t coordinate, but otherwise swim normally, synergies don’t come from passive biomechanics. PLUS now David linked sensed balance (broken ears) to coordination (broken synergy). Super cool! 17/25pic.twitter.com/xSGdbJzvVu

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      20. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Next, David knew that the cerebellum (or “little brain”) coordinates movement. Guess what? Fish with a broken a cerebellum engage their fins too much (steep) — even when diving (LOL wut)! 18/25pic.twitter.com/tDazs55X72

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      21. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Once again, another Big Deal. The cerebellum is telling the fish when NOT to use its fins. David’s work on climbing offers a new way to understand this most important brain region. 19/25pic.twitter.com/xCRPLDqV9N

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      22. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        So David showed how coordinated fin use facilitates balanced climbing (which gets better as fish develop). But is it really balance that defines the development of coordination? 20/25pic.twitter.com/w1izmKLlwa

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      23. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        How much do fish care about balance? David reasoned that coordinating the fins and body would take effort. So he built a model to play effort against balance. 21/25pic.twitter.com/vHWXJb2dsm

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      24. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        The model works well to recapitulate the features of climbing that David observed. 22/25pic.twitter.com/BWmDK7AiMx

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      25. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        If fish try to minimize effort (because really, who wants to work hard?) then David could infer how much they cared about balance. As they get older, they value balanced climbing more. 23/25pic.twitter.com/b2NDJ8DasW

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      26. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        So: 1. To climb, baby fish coordinate their fins & bodies (f&b) 2. Developing fish come to climb in a more balanced way 3. Gravity-blind fish don’t coordinate f&b 4. The cerebellum regulates f&b coordination 5. David modeled how the value of balance increases as fish grow 24/25

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      27. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 4

        Work was all done by David Ehrlich, Ph.D. @nyulangone with support from @NIDCD and @HearingHealthFn. Thanks so much for reading! 25/25

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      28. David Schoppik‏ @schoppik Feb 5

        Handy link to the preprint here: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/538546v1 … Enjoy!

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      29. End of conversation

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