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Philosopher-hacker. Sometimes theatre director. Making myself obsolete at @Metabase

Joined February 2009

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    1. R.Сам  🦋 ☠️‏ @Logo_Daedalus Jan 17

      Thinking about misconceptions that are annoying: people who think that Plato's Republic was Plato's last word on Politics & not a miserable failure he corrected in the extremely boring compendium of common sense called "The Laws"

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    2. R.Сам  🦋 ☠️‏ @Logo_Daedalus Jan 17

      Another one is the belief that Continental Philosophy is superior to Analytic Philosophy- or that it is even close in purity of form/expression, or even is Philosophy- this is tied to people thinking that Nietzsche was a Philosopher & not a Philologist/Itinerant Poet etc.

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    3. Simon Belak‏ @sbelak Jan 17
      Replying to @Logo_Daedalus

      Analytic Phil is so pure it doesn't have anything interesting to say. If it weren't for the Anglo cultural hegemony it would be a footnote in history.

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    4. R.Сам  🦋 ☠️‏ @Logo_Daedalus Jan 17
      Replying to @sbelak

      As if Analytic Philosophy isn't the ultimate source of the mathematics behind computation lmao

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    5. Simon Belak‏ @sbelak Jan 17
      Replying to @Logo_Daedalus

      About as much as the Greek Atomists are the ultimate source of modern physics.

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    6. R.Сам  🦋 ☠️‏ @Logo_Daedalus Jan 17
      Replying to @sbelak

      You don't think that there's a more, err, close continuity between Gödel & Turing than Democritus & Newton?

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    7. Simon Belak‏ @sbelak Jan 17
      Replying to @Logo_Daedalus

      Sure, but calling Goedel or Turing analytic philosophers is quite a stretch, especially if you are at the same time pedantic and insist Nietzsche was not.

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    8. R.Сам  🦋 ☠️‏ @Logo_Daedalus Jan 17
      Replying to @sbelak

      Where, in your opinion, is the line between analytic philosophy & say, modal logic?

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      Simon Belak‏ @sbelak Jan 18
      Replying to @Logo_Daedalus

      Neither Turing nor Goedel did modal logic, and it's not a very interesting distinction, but to not dodge the question: if it's based on (uses language and rules of) topology, mathematical logic, or abstract algebra, it's math.

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        2. R.Сам  🦋 ☠️‏ @Logo_Daedalus Jan 18
          Replying to @sbelak

          I see you've snuck the word mathematical before logic. The point isnt that Turing & Gödel were doing modal logic, the point is that the substructure of mathematics is philosophical- & that THIS is the purest form of philosophy.

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        3. Simon Belak‏ @sbelak Jan 18
          Replying to @Logo_Daedalus

          I can see why you dislike Nietzsche though, he's denouncing precisely this glorious "pure" past to which we can never return.

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        4. R.Сам  🦋 ☠️‏ @Logo_Daedalus Jan 18
          Replying to @sbelak

          I like Nietzsche, but as a poet.

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        5. R.Сам  🦋 ☠️‏ @Logo_Daedalus Jan 18
          Replying to @Logo_Daedalus @sbelak

          & this is also silly considering N's goal was to recreate presocratic philosophy- a goal heidegger took up as well etc

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        6. Simon Belak‏ @sbelak Jan 18
          Replying to @Logo_Daedalus

          Do a degree. But not as an immutable ideal, but rather returning to the point where we went astray, to make new thought.

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        7. Simon Belak‏ @sbelak Jan 18
          Replying to @sbelak @Logo_Daedalus

          *to a degree (sorry, this typo came out super patronizing)

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