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  1. Hunter Walk ‏@hunterwalk Jun 19

    Can a product few use ever be considered "well designed?" Are acceptance & scale prerequisites for great design or challenges to design?

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  2. Marc Andreessen ‏@pmarca Jun 19

    @hunterwalk What about products that tons of people use that are obviously terribly "designed"?

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  3. Hunter Walk ‏@hunterwalk Jun 19

    @pmarca certainly don't think mass use has to = good design. But good design = usability, & scale often = usability challenges

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  4. Marc Andreessen ‏@pmarca Jun 19

    @hunterwalk How does one square the importance of design for success with the success of Craigslist?

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  5. Othman Laraki ‏@othman Jun 19

    @hunterwalk @pmarca Good design is diff than aesthetics. IMO CL was well designed for its time and purpose. Eg email loop for auth...

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  6. Marc Andreessen ‏@pmarca Jun 19

    @othman @hunterwalk Do we therefore know good design by its resulting market success? Success means the design was good?

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    Satya Patel ‏@satyap Jun 19

    @pmarca @othman @hunterwalk success means the product delivered value. design is often a contributor or key. success isn't defined as scale.

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    1. Ravi Narasimhan ‏@Ravi Jun 19

      @satyap @pmarca @othman @hunterwalk Exactly. Good design is just one ingredient. Same as good engineering. Net-net judged on overall value

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    2. Hunter Walk ‏@hunterwalk Jun 19

      @Ravi @satyap @pmarca @othman 2b clear, my question more aimed at "is scaling a stress test that a design must pass to be considered great"

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    3. Ravi Narasimhan ‏@Ravi Jun 19

      @hunterwalk @satyap @pmarca @othman don't think so. IMHO scale only provides a causal link to value. Not necessarily to great design/eng

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    4. Mike Senechal ‏@msenechal Jun 19

      @hunterwalk @Ravi @satyap @pmarca @othman I would replace design with user experience in that sentence. Definitely not the same thing.

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    5. T.J. Ross ‏@TJRoss2411 Jun 19

      @satyap @pmarca @hunterwalk most impt. part of good design is making something people want/need. get that wrong and nothing else matters

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    6. T.J. Ross ‏@TJRoss2411 Jun 20

      @satyap @pmarca @hunterwalk CL solved massive problem in a way that scaled. Network effect negated economic incentive for good UI/UX

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    7. T.J. Ross ‏@TJRoss2411 Jun 20

      @satyap @pmarca @hunterwalk for product to gain traction, utility of design must be > utility of incumbent x network effect factor

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    8. T.J. Ross ‏@TJRoss2411 Jun 20

      @satyap @pmarca @hunterwalk so IMO yes, a product can be "well designed"and not gain traction if switching costs/network effect too strong

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