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    SativAnanda‏ @SativaShanti Dec 22

    今、ヨットやる人の90%以上が60代。あと5年もすれば(2,3年か?)体力的に船に乗れなくなるから、タダで良い船が有り余る時代が来る(既にその予兆がある)。港に行けば船をくれるっていう話はごろごろしてる。ここ数ヶ月でまだまだ乗れる船の解体を何度目撃したことか…。

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    • moric🌟@あと1勝❗俺たちの天皇杯❗❗元日参戦します murachika みーや 堕天使ひよこ ジョニ黒汁 歩稀 にゃごぴぴちゃん him-amino satoc
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      2. nanasi‏ @nanasi43 Dec 24
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        維持費や管理に手間のかかるものはタダでもいらない。 家は空き家になり、船は解体され、林野は荒れ果て、文化財は廃棄・流失し、人件費は外国人技能実習生など安くして… 最近のテレビでは持ち主の高齢化などで解体や売却するという内容が多く、一方で貴重な物品が海外に流失するという情報が多くある

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      3. SativAnanda‏ @SativaShanti Dec 24
        Replying to @nanasi43

        車もそうですが、船の業界も船体やエンジンなど一部は国外へ流出されていってます。使われないものは貴重なものであってもゴミでしかない、という悲しい現状…。

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      2. クロモリフレーム‏ @crmoframe Dec 23
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        海で起きてる現象が山でも起きてると思って良いですか?

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      3. SativAnanda‏ @SativaShanti Dec 23
        Replying to @crmoframe

        そうだと思います。色んな業界で似た現象が起こってます。土地、建物もタダ(もしくは格安)で手に入る状況も今後加速していくと思います。

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      2. komakoma‏ @komaranjyo25 Dec 23
        Replying to @SativaShanti @schwkatz

        係留の維持費とかエライのでは?

        1 reply . 5 retweets 4 likes
      3. SativAnanda‏ @SativaShanti Dec 23
        Replying to @komaranjyo25 @schwkatz

        そうです。体力的にはもう船に乗れないのに係留代払うが馬鹿らしくて船を手放したいのです。船の解体にも何10万とかかるから。係留せず移動しながら生活できるようなスタイルであれば維持費も安上がりになります。

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      2. 山谷剛史:中国アジアIT専門雲南住み‏ @YamayaT Dec 23
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        同じ論理で駐船場もあきがでてくる。

        1 reply . 5 retweets 4 likes
      3. SativAnanda‏ @SativaShanti Dec 23
        Replying to @YamayaT

        そうみたいですね。漁師も少なくなってきてますから、港はガラガラになるかもしれません。

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      2. 芳華絕代男友Excel‏ @saitosan62 Dec 23
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        それって全体的に貧乏になってると言う事?それともヨット自体の人気が無くなっているという事ですか

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      3. SativAnanda‏ @SativaShanti Dec 23
        Replying to @saitosan62

        確かにヨット自体人気ありませんけど、ヨットに限らず船の業界自体が衰退してます。と金持ち層と貧困層の格差が開いているので売れる船は馬鹿高いクルーザーが主流になってます。

        1 reply . 17 retweets 15 likes
      4. 芳華絕代男友Excel‏ @saitosan62 Dec 23
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        なるほどね。船価が下がるんじゃなくて只で上げる、っていうのが、急速な変化を示してますね...

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      1. G110‏ @k42056474 Dec 24
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        http://www.kanaloco.jp/article/230136 

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      1. 第三世界の村上(儂もそう思う博士)‏ @dubdisco Dec 24
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        その年代の人々の流行だったんでしょうね。

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      1. ユウチャ‏ @3WMBeZt4qKQRicB Dec 24
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        維持費がいくらかかるかが問題ですねー!

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      1. kanade‏ @kanade3741 Dec 24
        Replying to @SativaShanti @tamanyann2001

        類似案件が他にもありそう…

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      1. 倉瀬美都‏ @clausemitz Dec 24
        Replying to @SativaShanti @catyann0

        つうても金のかかる趣味を楽しんでる世代なんて、今の50代ぐらいが最後だろうから、ヨットをもらったって維持費だけで生活が苦しくなるから困りますわ。😗

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      1. 拓海/takumi‏ @minn_taku Dec 24
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        2-4-11

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      1. 電車侍‏ @denshasamurai Dec 23
        Replying to @SativaShanti @GonbeNanashiN0

        加山雄三の若大将シリーズに憧れて、ヨットを購入した世代なのでしょうか~(;^ω^)。

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      1. ジロン@牛久駅前GREEN*GREEN‏ @jinkstar Dec 23
        Replying to @SativaShanti

        僕も何度か船あげるって言われました。 でも今の維持コストのままですと、厳しいですよね

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