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    Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 19
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    Been thinking a lot about what comes after “free software” & “open source.” Both terms were coined when the tech industry (& the world) was a very different place. I think we’ve outgrown them.

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      2. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 19
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        Early thoughts: both concepts are too code-centric and too license-oriented. Many things that we think of as indispensable to modern open source projects are not included in the formal definitions. This is a good sign that we have another, as-yet-unnamed concept in play.

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      3. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 19
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        Things not included in either concept include: - community building - accepting contributions from other people - ethical use of software - distribution mechanisms - governance - use of paid vs free labor

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      4. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 19
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        And many more - I’ve made a whole huge list. Perhaps I will even ✨BLOG✨ 😱

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      5. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 20
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        Open source & free software licenses were designed to correct the power imbalance that existed 30 years ago - when large companies selling proprietary software held power over their users. “Take this software for free!” the licenses said. “Fix it yourself if something breaks.”

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      6. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 20
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        Open source and free software licenses gave power to the users - the individuals - at the expense of the companies.

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      7. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 20
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        But that balance of power has shifted over the last 30 years. What we are noticing is that free and open source software is now accumulating power once again in the _companies_, since they’re the end the users of the software, rather than individuals.

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      8. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 20
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        And so we are seeing calls for licenses that shift power back to the authors - who are often still individuals or collectives rather than companies.

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      9. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 20
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        The OSI can persist in its insistence that “open source” means transferring power to the user, but if they do, I think they’re missing the larger point of their movement.

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      10. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 20
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        If we want free and open source software to continue to be about giving power to individuals at the expense of companies, then it’s time for a change.

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      11. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 20
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        I want to read more about the legal aspects of open source licensing - both generally in terms of what kind of case law exists, and specifically around what constitutes "distribution."

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      12. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 20
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        But IANAL, so I've googled, but I don't know how to evaluate the trustworthiness of the results. I assume that in law, as in software development, there are a lot of bad takes out there. 😅 Law and law-adjacent folks: any pointers?

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      2. hng‏ @henningbey Sep 19
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        Replying to @sarahmei @acid23

        There is the idea of coop source: https://coopsource.org 

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      2. Pablo‏ @_tnpablo Sep 20
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        this is probably already in your radar, but in the off chance it isn't:https://words.steveklabnik.com/what-comes-after-open-source …

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      3. David Mazza‏ @dmzza Sep 20
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        I agree with much of what he said. The Ember.js community created a scoring system for addons on @EmberObserver that most projects include in their readme. Very much like a test for openness.

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      2. Morten @ #WCYVR‏Verified account @mor10 Sep 20
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        I wish the talk I did at @PressNomics was recorded. It was about this exact subject. Open source ideology was anti-capitalist and revolutionary. It was also short-sighted and aggressively libertarian. Equity and common good has given way to corporatization and monopolization.

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      3. Morten @ #WCYVR‏Verified account @mor10 Sep 20
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        Replying to @mor10 @sarahmei @PressNomics

        I'd love to compare notes or collaborate on something. I have a ton of notes, two half-finished blog posts, and a conference talk to draw from.

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      2. T. Alex Beamish‏ @talexb Sep 20
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        Replying to @sarahmei

        I lived in a Co-op residence (WCRI) at Waterloo. Every resident signed up for 2-3 hours of work/week, rather than hire staff. So we washed dishes, pots, served food, mopped, did general repairs, etc. Fees were about 2/3 of other residences, and it fostered a sense of community.

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      3. T. Alex Beamish‏ @talexb Sep 20
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        I've been taking part in the shareware and open source community for thirty years for the same type of reason: I'd rather help out a small business or a community than send my cash to some corporation. Maybe 'Co-op' could be part of the name of the new organization.

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