Twitter at the speed of parenting
I was expecting a terrible non-apology from Stallman, but this is even worse than I thought it would be. #cancelstallmanhttps://twitter.com/theamyshim/status/1172946689553887232 …
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My sense is that we should support that individuals face consequences for bad actions even family members. The response to their actions however I feel should not be emotive or derogatory. Why? If we ourselves mirror the bad behavior, then surely we lessen the moral lesson.
You think I’m mirroring his support for pedophilia, treating the disabled like pets, & consistent misogynistic behavior? You think I’m mirroring his refusal to change for 30 YEARS despite repeated feedback?pic.twitter.com/O1Q0KTFSrR
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I’m just calling it what it indisputably is: Abhorrent. Terrible. An ugly stain on free software that can never be fully removed. But we have to try, and that starts with removing him from every position of power he holds.
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Understood. I see you as a force for good, you have driven awareness for change, and through that enabled change. You haven't tried you have succeeded. My worry was and remains that the emotive language being used in this context detracts from a powerful position and argument.
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Consider that you might find the use of emotive language a detractor because you've been taught that emotions are bad, and that you've been taught that emotions are bad because they're 'female-coded'? Our rage is valid.
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Also, you say you're 'always willing to listen'. Listening means just that. "Listen." It doesn't mean 'argue back.'https://twitter.com/alilynnet/status/1172659224007954432 …
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"Yes, as a hashtag ally I agree with you and this situation is unacceptable... but isn't there some loophole that means I can ignore all this and not change my behavior at all?"
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No, I have deep respect for you. I enjoy your insights and thoughts my concern is that the language being used detracts from argument for change.
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In all seriousness, I have that same concern, but in the opposite direction. Until we have firm consequences instead of easily-ignored words and unlimited second chances, these lines will always seem nice-but-optional to privileged people. Bullies have no qualms crossing them.
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Yup. The whole problem here is that people have been too nice - for thirty years. More nice isn’t going to move the needle. Right now what everyone in this situation needs is to feel the REAL, AUTHENTIC anger that women have been suppressing around this asshole for DECADES.
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So what specific actions do you propose and recommend? What reaction is to be taken if the action is not taken? Timeline? How do you channel the anger felt to enable change? If the change does not occur, what is to be done? Anger is powerful, but a plan more so.
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Remove RMS as President of the Free Software Foundation immediately.
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Ok, a clearly defined action and immediate timeline is defined. Why the request? What specific actions or behaviors have caused this request to be made? If the request is not agreed and acted upon, what actions will be taken in response? The latter creates the focus for change.
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The above is a powerful message that can be written and articulated. If forces the discussion to be had. The two of you can drive that.
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Pete, thank you for your support. I agree that we should remain constructive. To that end, I'm muting you because while your posts may not be concern trolling, they are completely indistinguishable to concern trolling. Rest assured, we are committed to pursuing this issue.
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