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    Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 9
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    Sarah Mei Retweeted Detritivore Biome means DOMAIN OF THE WORMS

    1,000,000% this. If a senior engineer can’t explain it to you in a way you understand - even if you are a lot less experienced - that’s THEIR deficiency. Not yours. When this happens, it means THEY actually don’t understand it well enough.https://twitter.com/noahsussman/status/1170870234066165760 …

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    Detritivore Biome means DOMAIN OF THE WORMS @noahsussman
    The best engineers are not only good at listening but they are good at explaining as well. If you have been overwhelmed and intimidated by a senior engineer please consider the Dunning-Kruger effect. It's likely that person knows less than they think they do. A lot less.
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      2. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 10
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        Sarah Mei Retweeted Silvia Botros

        Also:https://twitter.com/dbsmasher/status/1171441727267196928 …

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        Silvia Botros @dbsmasher
        If “trains others instead of hoarding interesting work” is not one of your principal/staff engineer yardsticks...you are doing senior engineering wrong.
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      3. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 11
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        One more thing: it indeed takes two to communicate! But when there’s a power imbalance present - such as always accompanies an experience gap - the onus is on higher-power person to make sure they’re adapting to their partner.

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      4. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 11
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        Sarah Mei Retweeted Silvia Botros

        Ok one more truthbomb:https://twitter.com/dbsmasher/status/1171791887507718144 …

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        Silvia Botros @dbsmasher
        Tech bro’s in my mentions. If you think your value is the code you write you are an engineer. Just not a senior one. The code you write is future tech debt. The problem you help solve are business value. Enjoy your mute corner.
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      2. Larry Garfield‏ @Crell Sep 10
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        Replying to @sarahmei @CrashTest_

        I will 80% agree with this. Teaching is a distinct skill, separate from doing. You can be really good at doing but lousy at explaining/teaching. The blacksmithing mentor at my forge, for instance. :-/ It's a skill one should develop, but it's not the same skill.

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      3. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 10
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        Replying to @Crell @CrashTest_

        Absolutely. My contention, however, is that you’re not a _senior_ developer unless you have that skill.

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      4. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 10
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        Replying to @sarahmei @Crell @CrashTest_

        Being able to explain decisions is, in fact, precisely what distinguishes a senior engineer from a mid-level one.

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      5. Larry Garfield‏ @Crell Sep 10
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        Replying to @sarahmei @CrashTest_

        Then we ought to be sending would-be seniors to education classes, too, not just technical conferences. :-)

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      6. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 10
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        Replying to @Crell @CrashTest_

        Hard agree 😊

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      7. Larry Garfield‏ @Crell Sep 10
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        Replying to @sarahmei @CrashTest_

        Violent agreement!

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      2. Sergey Moiseev‏ @SergeyMoiseev Sep 10
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        Replying to @sarahmei @dhh

        Pssst. Try answer some questions on StackOverflow. Then we'll see.

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      3. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 10
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        Replying to @SergeyMoiseev @dhh

        🤔pic.twitter.com/lsio6F3038

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      4. moriah  👻‏ @moriahmaney Sep 11
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        you are a national treasure

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      2. Kevin‏ @_venikx Sep 10
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        Replying to @sarahmei

        We work in a bubble where everyone “knows” what they are talking about, but in reality no-one knows what they are talking about. The very few gems who deeply know what they are doing are few, not every company has one. Personally I don’t know what I’m doing either (sometimes).

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      3. Kevin‏ @_venikx Sep 10
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        Replying to @_venikx @sarahmei

        Personally I feel it’s close-minded to claim you can’t be a senior if you can’t explain yourself to a beginner. Some people have troubles expressing themselves by default. Pretty disheartening for people with bad social skills to see they will never be a “real senior”.

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      4. Detritivore Biome means DOMAIN OF THE WORMS‏ @noahsussman Sep 11
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        Replying to @_venikx @sarahmei

        Fwiw I've had mentors at work who were so socially awkward they had to take regular leave time for panic attacks. I don't think having bad social skills precludes being a good mentor.

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      5. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 11
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        Replying to @noahsussman @_venikx

        There are other ways to explain than in-person. I’ve worked with senior devs who preferred to write things down, some who liked slack convos, some who liked drawing diagrams, & one who maintained an amazing test suite that served as executable docs. But SOMEHOW, they must teach.

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      6. Detritivore Biome means DOMAIN OF THE WORMS‏ @noahsussman Sep 11
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        Replying to @sarahmei @_venikx

        Yeah. No one would characterize me as highly socially proficient, and most of the mentoring I have done was over DM or slack. Same for the mentoring I've received.

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      2. Callionica‏ @Callionica Sep 10
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        Replying to @ianwalkeruk @sarahmei

        Pro tip #4397 : avoid working with people who think their coworkers deserve to get blasted for anything.

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