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ALL I WANTED WAS RAILS NEW: A 50-step saga in which I have two things: 1. an idea for an web app 2. a laptop that hasn't seen rails development since 2016 >_<pic.twitter.com/4L2fNi4Q2c
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My point here is NOT “Rails is bad” - most frameworks have this upgrade problem. My point is that we put a significant complexity burden onto app developers to understand their OS - which has no redeeming value except making those of us who figure it out feel superior.
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How might we enable app developers to to focus their attention on the app, rather than the environment?
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UPDATE: I worked on this code for about 45 minutes tonight, & I now have most of the app I wanted. Test driven, running on CI, & deployed to heroku. Rails: Once You Install It, It’s Great
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My code is 90 % done. Now I just have to do the other 90%
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Thank you for sharing! I have similar problems almost every time I work on a side-project app from years ago. I thought containerization might be a solution, but then I actually went and tried to dockerize a typical Rails app and gave up due to having to learn a whole new stack.
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It’s ridiculous that I’ve been using Rails since pre-1.0 and I maintain a Ruby version manager and STILL figuring out my local dev environment and compiling gems with native extensions can be a nightmare
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Honestly, because I work in python and python has version and packaging issues even worse than this because of the ongoing v2.7/v3.5+ fiasco, I literally spin up docker containers and develop in them.
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Isn't that at least one of the problems docker aims to solve? Don't get me wrong, not saying it is perfect at it, and there is plenty to learn in those realms...
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Dicker creates new issues. Many of them.
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Docker, touch type no good
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I like the typoed version more :D
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I also almost smirked.
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we use docker at
@discourse for low barrier contributions, as long as docker is installed `d/boot_dev` to start env, `d/rails c` for console and so on.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I've had similar stories with Rails dev on windows, and all the answers are somewhere on the continuum of: 1. Containers/vms! (gotta learn how to use docker, and sucks if you have old hardware tho...) 2. Cloud dev! (so long as you have reliable internet...)
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Something that might actually help is if we had officially blessed, up to date STATICALLY LINKED binaries for the major platforms. Both Ruby itself AND all gems with native extensions. But that's a huge ecosystem shift.
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I think tools like
@stackblitz are the answer. https://stackblitz.comThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I think that’s the genius of what
@jennschiffer,@anildash and so many others with@glitch are doing - removing the weird arcane knowledge that stands in the way of getting cool ideas turned into real, scalable appsThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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Tools like
@glitch that give you the environment and the hosting out of the box. You get to focus on the bit you're there to do
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I’ve been asking this question a lot lately. I have mixed feelings about it.
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