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Non-rhetorical question
It was briefly node, but not anymore, given the large amount of BigCo buyin of the node ecosystem.
So what is it?
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Conventional wisdom: “It’s a toy! Fine for internal tools, but you couldn’t possibly write real production code that way.” In 1998, they said that about Java. In 2006, they said it about Rails. What are they saying that about today?
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@sarahmei possibly unpopular opinion?#NoCode/#LimitedCoding options like Webflow, Zapier, Strapi, etc -
Actually I totally agree with you. We're moving towards a world where it's routine to use a mix of declarative and programmatic tools to solve problems.
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Heck it's even possible to put code in the declarative bits.
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That is pretty sweet.
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As I side note (which I really hesitate to even make, because it's entirely tangential to a good question), I don't think Java was ever that language. It had the backing of the biggest player in the dot-com boom, and was "the language of the future" almost from the get-go.
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Siri, define the dot com boom: Java implementations on giant Sun hardware with 8 figures in consulting costs that could have been done in Perl by a team of 4. To be fair: Java was not ready for prime time so that hardware was required.
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It is and always will be Excel ... since 1987. Most big companies run expensive persistence layer on SAP in their data center. The actual business logic is running on a 1995 desktop PC in a dusty office.
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I’m not a fan but it seems like node has already gone through that cycle. Right now? Rust, Elm, Go, and Elixir. I have no idea which will take off though.
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I think it'd be hard to say Go hadn't taken off, given how much of the docker and container ecosystem is using Go.
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I heard that about python a lot
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I still do.
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On 1998 my first impression of Java was that it was serious (backed by Big Corporation, enterprisey promises) and certainly not a toy. You apparently had a very different experience. What made it look like a toy?
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Java in the browser was brutally flaky.
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I see your point.
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I still hear that about node, mostly from the Java dev crowd. Some people still see it as a fad that is bound to eventually go away. Funny thing is, I currently contract as a Java dev at a fintech place with *lots* of mainframe code. Some of the COBOL devs think of Java as a fad
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Back in my tender years, I did a lot of assembler programming in platforms based upon Motorola 680x0 processors. The prevailing opinion in our little community was that Intel x86 processors were a fad. Group think can a be pretty misleading thing.
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Having programmed asm on Moto & Intel... I'm sorry to say I think the good guys lost
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