SJ Longthorne

According to Twitter, being left wing now means being categorically pro Antifa and offensive violence against the alt right in general. Anything else makes you a centrist/nazi sympathiser. You doin me a heckin big confuse, Twitter.

As a Jewish person, hearing people condemning Antifa makes me deeply uncomfortable. I know it can seem like they use violence against ideas (usually a disproportionate response), but the fundamental thing to remember is that neo-Nazi ideas aren't peaceful ideas.

I strongly believe that violence is not the solution to fascism, but actually feeds it in a never ending cycle. Antifa is not the solution, in my opinion. Violence can’t kill ideas.

Eh, I would like to believe that but inevitably fascism leads to violence & by that point several people will already dead. Prevention & scaring nazis from being openly bigoted & harmful often protects vulnerable people from their actions. Antifa is a normal reaction to it.

Obviously if someone is attacked, they should defend themselves, and there should defend them too. That’s not what I’m saying :) violence doesn’t kill the idea, it just forces people underground where you can no longer anticipate their movements

Yeah, i didn't think you were saying complete pascifism is the way to go, soz. It's more, when is the line of fascist violence no longer acceptable? Jo Cox was murdered by a fascist & fascism is on the rise with little mainstream challenge of it.

At what point is counter violence acceptable? Because we did get to a World War when it was allowed to continue, under the watchful eye of the international community who let it happen. I don't know when is best to employ violence but Antifa at least directs it at better targets.