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    Sarah Kliff‏Verified account @sarahkliff 7 Nov 2017

    Here’s a dumb question - I’ve seen 80k and 70k floating around as potential Medicaid coverage gain in Maine. Which one is it/source??

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      2. Rachana D. Pradhan‏Verified account @rachanadixit 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        Independent estimates say 80K, advocates say 70K.

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      3. Sarah Kliff‏Verified account @sarahkliff 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @rachanadixit

        It’s really weird that advocates are going with a lower number than the independent state agency!

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      4. Rachana D. Pradhan‏Verified account @rachanadixit 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        Ya agreed.

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      5. Hannah Recht‏ @hannah_recht 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @rachanadixit @sarahkliff

        80K sounds very high to me unless they're including the woodwork effect (previously eligible people newly enrolling)

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      6. Kimberly Leonard‏Verified account @leonardkl 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @hannah_recht @rachanadixit @sarahkliff

        Could be. That contributed to Obamacare reaching its coverage goals overall, despite not all states expanding.

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      7. Hannah Recht‏ @hannah_recht 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @leonardkl @rachanadixit @sarahkliff

        Yeah, has anybody found a link to that 80K number? Woodwork effect is an important stat too (but a different stat)

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      8. Sarah Kliff‏Verified account @sarahkliff 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @hannah_recht @leonardkl @rachanadixit

        I still can’t find a link to the 80k number -just a bunch of articles citing the Maine Office of Fiscal Review w/o the doc

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      9. Hannah Recht‏ @hannah_recht 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff @leonardkl @rachanadixit

        Same. They put woodwork at 10K, seemingly on top of the 80K. Sounds very high, I don't buy it without seeing the methods section.pic.twitter.com/DFxHad57Ai

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      2. Jacob Leibenluft‏Verified account @jleibenluft 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        This describes the sourcing on both numbers (see page 5) https://www.chn.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Download-File.pdf …

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      3. Sarah Kliff‏Verified account @sarahkliff 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @jleibenluft

        I’ve seen Maine OFR cited in multiple articles, but I can’t find the actually document anywhere!

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      2. Mitchell "always angry" Stein‏ @mhstein 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        The 70K is the older number, that's why advocates have been using it and it's in most material. 80K more recent

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      3. Sarah Kliff‏Verified account @sarahkliff 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @mhstein

        Do you have a link to the report estimating 80k?

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      4. Mitchell "always angry" Stein‏ @mhstein 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        just sent

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      2. Kim Soffen‏Verified account @kimsoffen 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        80k according to http://legislature.maine.gov/ofpr/ 

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      3. Sarah Kliff‏Verified account @sarahkliff 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @kimsoffen

        I’ve looked at their site, but where is the actual doc?

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      4. Kim Soffen‏Verified account @kimsoffen 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        oh weird. here's a study by lefty advocates, looking for something better http://mejp.org/sites/default/files/Medicaid-Expansion-The-Real-Impact-Kilbreth-Sep2017.pdf …

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      1. Bleeding Heartland‏ @desmoinesdem 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        Not a dumb question.

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      1. Peter Elias‏ @pheski 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        The $70K figure seems more prevalent in-state, and comes from here, I believe: http://mainersforhealthcare.org/about/ 

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      2. Hannah Recht‏ @hannah_recht 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sarahkliff

        Urban has predicted takeup at 50-55K (not number eligible) https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/89986/2001246_the_cost_of_not_expanding_medicaid_updated_analysis.pdf …)

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      3. Hannah Recht‏ @hannah_recht 7 Nov 2017
        Replying to @hannah_recht @sarahkliff

        Disclaimer I'm a biased HIPSM alum but when it comes to predicted enrollment I think their numbers are the best around

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