if you're part of the population at risk and you have been excluded, that's a big problem to grapple with; if not, this is your problem and your first instinct should be to take a hard look at your own damn selfhttps://twitter.com/thomasbeagle/status/966413462837510144 …
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obvious caveats for the cases where the whisper network is about a man abusing men or boys, but y'all know he wasn't talking about that
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ME: we live in hell and we should all do better A MAN: ah yes I read your article and was pleased to hear I am exonerated of any culpability
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OTOH - I’ve often found myself as part of whisper networks but until recently never even considered looping men into them. Just saying.
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I genuinely hope that being a good ally doesn’t require presence or participation in whisper networks. I try to respect that some people may have threat models that treat all cis men, myself inclusive, as risks. I don’t take that perspective personally and it seems fairly common.
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I get Sarah's point for sure, I just don't think it's universally the reason.
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As with all things, "not all men," but if you find yourself not part of any whisper networks your first instinct should be to question why and maybe the answer to "why" is totally valid!
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still, the first step is to do that, and not to crow on twitter about how your moral responsibilities are discharged :/
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being oblivious, socially disconnected and not someone that people want to confide in is something for him to brag about? lol
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lol men
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Having been in whisper networks, I wish I had better guidance for what to offer beyond, as you say, helping women "adjust their lives to avoid men who are work hazards." Usually the best I have are some thoughts about avoiding retaliation, which is on the whole not very helpful.
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watch him when around young women new to the scene and again be ready to join convo + introduce her to other women
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If you're not included in a whisper network you should be worried you're the reason for it
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Well yes, it is revealing of my lack of social participation and small number of close friends, but people like me need to know these things too.
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Social isolation in men is an entirely separate issue that doesn't cleanly connect to bring the problem. I agree it's off-topic, though.
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