March 2015 exhibit -- "Ideally we'd be allowed to store this data wherever we like - it's not code, it's not user data, it's pretty low-value -- and thus get the freedom to use easy solutions that do everything we want. But getting that permission is well above my englevel."
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Shout-out to the Keker lawyers who've made it in as characters in this lawsuit
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UBER: To this day, you don't know what a trade secret is. ZBROZEK: I have been trying to avoid the legal definition.
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I'd like to think that part of the legacy of Oracle v Google is that all of these witnesses have assiduously avoided being hacker news comments lawyers
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An email TO Zbrozek: "Sasha, we want to be able to say that SVN contains only internal confidential stuff, which I understand from Pierre is the case"
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UBER: Have you made any changes to the instructions for logging into the SVN repository? ZBROZEK: I’m sure I have at some point. UBER: But to this day, if someone logs into the SVN database following your instructions, *everything is downloaded*.
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WAYMO: Why was the SVN password protected? ZBROZEK: Because we wanted to protect the contents of the information that was in there.
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WAYMO: What is GCE? ZBROZEK: GCE, the Google Compute Engine
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Now Waymo going back to Uber's whole thing about "shouldn't someone be keeping an eye on the SVN server / shouldn't there be alarm bells" ZBROZEK: False positives are not useful.
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ZBROZEK: This is something we proscribe for the engineers to do and something that is necessary for their goals.
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We're on recross UBER: If you log into anything as a Google employee it's password protected, right? ZBROZEK: Well it depends, have you logged on from that device before . . .
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The emails are getting zoomed in and Uber is pointing to lawyers cc'd on the email and pointing out that the lawyers are present in the courtroom are currently litigating the case
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Zbrozek said that he couldn't recognize them and he doesn't know. "I don't know where they're from. And you hopefully blacked [the firm names out] so I wouldn't now." Their firm domains are, in fact, blacked out
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Zbrozek is off, Pierre Yves-Droz is now on the stand.
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Now we're doing the backstory, I wonder if he studied at Stanford and has some wonderful children
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Actually he got his degree at Berkeley but yes he has two sons
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Explaining what LIDAR is VERY QUICKLY with effusive hand motions in a French accent
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WAYMO: If you could buy these LIDARs off the shelf why would you build your own? DROZ: They are pretty expensive and they don’t work well for automotive, they were very fragile.
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WAYMO: Why is LIDAR important for self-driving cars? DROZ: They are the eyes of the car.
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Droz says that when he joined Google, they were using Velodyne. He had developed a LIDAR called "Little Bear" at his startup, which was acquired at Google, Google started using that, which evolved to Mama Bear and Papa Bear.
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DROZ: Papa Bear was a long-range LIDAR. Velodyne is more medium-range LIDAR.
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... now explaining a fiber laser, in, again, a very fast French accent with effusive gestures
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