One way to deal with stale users is to revoke credentials
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Janosko is done, we're going to take a 15 minute break bc alsup is sick of this shit lol
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Sasha Zbrozek now on the stand! That's the engineer that was like "idk guys is this really a big deal tho"
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oh my goddddd he just spelled his last name using phonetic alphabet
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Waymo asks how SVN works. ZBROZEK: We will download the entire repository, usually the present-day snapshot, we'll upload it back with whatever we've changed.
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ok guys you can stop getting mad about svn in my mentions now
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Zbrozek set up the SVN in question and wrote the documentation for using it
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WAYMO: What is yak shaves dot com ZBROZEK: It was the SVN server WAYMO: Is that still the domain? ZBROZEK: No, not anymore. WAYMO: Why did you change it? ZBROZEK: Once it became public it was necessary to get it changed.
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I regret to inform everyone that yak shaves dot com currently redirects to one of my tweets
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Zbrozek is the same engineer who said in an email that Levandowski's downloaded files were "low-value" and said that he didn't want to set a precedent for a full repository download to be suspicious
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for the last time, i know what yak shaving is, it's still a stupid fucking domain name
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Zbrozek's full email: Well, Anthony’s log speaks to the number of files. It also expresses the (rough) file size for each transaction. Figuring out the totals for both can be done by parsing the log snippet. +
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I’m a leery because both of those numbers aren’t really meaningful to any narrative. It also has a chilling effect on being a hardware engineer -- we all do full checkouts and it makes me uncomfortable to think that lawyers are trying to ascribe suspicion to it.
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WAYMO: You said it didn't ring any alarm bells to you, does the information on the screen ring alarm bells to you? (the screen is a demonstrative from the Google forensic side showing where the full repo went -- to a SD card etc) The question was not allowed
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Now going to the "it was considered low-value enough" email. WAYMO: What did you make of that?
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March 2015 exhibit -- "Ideally we'd be allowed to store this data wherever we like - it's not code, it's not user data, it's pretty low-value -- and thus get the freedom to use easy solutions that do everything we want. But getting that permission is well above my englevel."
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He says that "low-value" meant it was just less valuable than code and user data.
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Another email from Zbrozek: "At least historically, high-value has been algorithms and software.The hardware (at all levels) was a second class citizen. Maybe opinions have changed."
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WAYMO: Do you consider yourself low-value? ZBROZEK: No. WAYMO: Do you consider yourself a low-value worker? ZBROZEK: No. WAYMO: Do you think the technology in the SVN server is low-value technology? ZBROZEK: No.
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WAYMO: Why not? ZBROZEK: It’s everything you need to build a self-driving car, there’s nothing low value there.
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UBER: When you set up the SVN, there were no tools for monitoring what people were doing with their subversion account? ZBROZEK: No, that’s not entirely true. Rolling the depo tape
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UBER: So nobody monitors? ZBROZEK: No, but nobody monitors when we get water from the refrigerator, either.
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Uber now pressing on this because it's a bad answer, water isn't the same as data
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ZBROZEK: I don't really know what a trade secret is.
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Uber pressing hard on his "low value emails," Waymo really got ahead of this
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Shout-out to the Keker lawyers who've made it in as characters in this lawsuit
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UBER: To this day, you don't know what a trade secret is. ZBROZEK: I have been trying to avoid the legal definition.
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I'd like to think that part of the legacy of Oracle v Google is that all of these witnesses have assiduously avoided being hacker news comments lawyers
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