I live in fucking Oregon and it felt like the shitty media men list was burning the world around me. The fallout and the debate around the list has lived in my head for months. I cannot imagine being Moira Donegan, and coming out of it with this much insight and introspection.
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I hate the shitty media men list. I don’t want to live in a world where people make public google spreadsheets of allegations, no more than I want to live in a world where people put spring guns behind their front doors.
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But decrying all the spreadsheets and all the “lack of due process” won’t change the world we live in, the world that keeps spinning up new and desperate forms of self-help. This chaotic, Lord of the Flies feeling of helplessness? It belongs to all of us now, welcome.
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Anyways this is the only correct answer to calls for “due process”https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/945780957390495751 …
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Did you learn about “reckless disregard for the truth” in law school?
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Yeah, it's that thing where you disregard a person's claim, out-of-hand, based either upon their gender, race, orientation, or the identity of the accused.
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I believe the word is "accused" not "convicted". Due process allows the justice system to determine if someone is guilty of not. Because that is a possibility
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Sure, & there are terms like "alleged" before convictions as well as the old favorite: "innocent until proven guilty" But y'know we could go back to throwing people in ponds or weighing them against ducks? Seemed to be popular once, along with burnings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3jt5ibfRzw …pic.twitter.com/YgiNjllES2
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sure let’s use the murder of women to illustrate how no men have been murdered or even jailed due to this reckoning
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It occurs to me that what follows from this is, if one is worried about the destruction of the lives of innocent men, one should be working towards a greatly improved, robust response on sexual harassment and assault from law enforcement and the courts.
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Finally! Thank you. This is what burns me up. No due process for victims of harassment, only those who do the harassing. And a system that makes it expensive, career-crashing, and often futile to do so.
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I need to have a link to this handy at all times and places forever more.
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Such great news!
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"For my friends, everything..."
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The annoying thing about the "shitty men list" conversation is that while it's not the way we should deal with the issue, it's just a more public version of what women have been doing for eons
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