He says there are books and posters showing classes that are distributed by Sun-Oracle for devs.
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Astrachan: Developers would absolutely care about implementing code.
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Astrachan: If the declaring code were good, easy to understand, but the implementing code were buggy ... it would be very difficult.
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Astrachan: Typically, bugs for developers are in their code, not in the library code. .... it would not be so good.
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I love this.
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Keep in mind that even if it's obvious for you, it is probably the FIRST TIME anyone has told the jury that bugs in library code are bad
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Astrachan summary of what Google did with Android: 1) Google selected 37 (not all) packages from Java SE, and used those method declarations
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2) Wrote implementing code for those declarations 3) Adding other libraries specific to smartphones, like GPS, camera, etc
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4) Brought in 3rd party libraries for stuff like web browsers and graphics
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5) Made the Dalvik Virtual Machine 6) Built whole thing on top of Linux.
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Astrachan: That whole sequence led to this open source, innovative Android platform.
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Hurst for Oracle now crossing.
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She's crossing about ME. Little bit of a battle with Google over whether that's okay, since Astrachan's report doesn't talk about ME.
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Alsup says close enough. Then Google objects on hearsay because she's crossing about a citation in the report.
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Finally Astrachan is cleared to reply. Astrachan: As I understand it, there are some packages from SE that are also from ME.
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11, to be specific. And then looking at an appendix. Astrachan: Yes, there are 11 x's in this chart.
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Did I hear that right? Later she says 4?
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I think it counts as the other side, since Oracle complained that Google was "trying to burn time" https://twitter.com/joe_no_body/status/733348130121515009 …
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Oracle now pulling a Google, asking if Google's lawyers were involved in writing his reports.
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He says they were in communication. This is like the same as the Google Keystone objections—it's shade. imo useless shade
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Oracle takes a moment to cross him on a line (from Mazzocchi yesterday?): "The copyright on the API is real and hard to ignore"
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It's beyond the scope of the direct. Oracle done. Google rests rebuttal.
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Jury coming in again for some admonitions I think.
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No Oracle sur-rebuttal, so all the evidence is in, at 10:36 am! Evidentiary record on this stage is closed.
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The closing arguments and jury instruction are scheduled for Monday.
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A few admonitions about not doing any research like not to look up "API" on the internet.
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The jurors have been really conscientious so I'm sure the jurors will be fine.
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But as an aside, can you imagine being forced to learn Java while forbidden from checking Stack Exchange
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Alsup also tells the jurors not to make copies of their notes, and not to speak to anyone about the case.
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Alsup: You can read all your notes to your heart's content.
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